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GENERAL STUFF => GENERAL DISCUSSIONS => Random Chit Chat => Topic started by: mrhammy on September 25, 2009, 11:05:01
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OK, I've scoured every page I can and I cannot find out which oil to use in my 1600 turbo diesel engine.
I'm having trouble with links that I find on this site, so I've not been able to follow any of them to find out what I'm asking. Believe me I have looked...
I'm a dummie so I'm not clued up on all the the specs and all thats stuff. But all I'm trying to do is top the oil up between servicings.
Can someone please reply to his post with a list of oils that are absolutely certain to be compatible with my engine?
By the way, i'm in Australia so oil only available locally in some areas of UK/USA will probably not be available to me here.
Also, can anyone explain to me why it is so hard to find out this information? I've searched the net for days before discovering this set of forums.
Thanks to all for any help you can offer.
Oh and sorry for whining so much in this email...
Regards
Mr Hammy
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Hi Mr Hammy and welcome to the club... The oil must meat ACEA- B4
Pretty much any fully synthetic 0-W40 , 5-W30 or 5-W40 fully synthetic should meet that standard and do the job...
If you've got plenty of money you could go something like Mobil 1 or Shell Helix - Ultra
But I usually buy Castrol Edge sport 5-w30 on special for around A$35
We had a major site crash a few months ago and a lot of our links and attachments got scrambled...
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Dazz - Thanks for the very quick reply.
I will get some of the Castrol Edge stuff if I can find it.
Hyundai wouldn't recommend a particular brand of oil for some reason. They just kept quoting ACEA-B4 at me and when I went to SuperCheap and AutoPro I couldn't for the life of me find one that clearly stated ACEA-B4. Guess that's a side effect of being a 'mature person'.
Anyway, your help is much appreciated.
just for the record, I have a Red Hyundai i30 CRDi Manual (2008 vintage with about 24,000 kms on the clock). I'm currently getting about 6l/100km doing about 25Kms each way to and from work each day. Mostly using the Monaro Highway between south Canberra and the Canberra city. Sort of happy, but wish i could get more economy.
I'm an 'old fart' with a gentle right foot (mostly) so I should be doing better.
Enough about my problems for now...
And Thanks Again for the Help
Regards
MrHammy
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Service Refill Capacity: 5.3 Litres
Filters:
Up to13-2-2008: 26320-2A002
13-2-2008-on: 26320-2A500
Fuchs:
TITAN GT1 SAE 5W-30
Mobil:
Mobil 1 0w-40
Delvac MX Extra 10w-40
Castrol:
Magnatec Professional 5w-40
Edge Sport 0w-40
Edge Sport 5w-30
Valvoline:
Valvoline Syn Power 0w-40
Valvoline MXL 0w-30
Penrite:
Penrite HPR Diesel 5 5w-40
Havoline:
Havoline Fully Synthetic 5w-40
Repsol:
Elite Competicion 5w-40
Shell:
Helix Ultra 5w-40
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No worries Mr Hammy.. an oil change might make a bit of difference. Due to the hilly nature of the part of Tassie that I live in and the fact that I'm doing mostly short trips at the moment (under 10k's) I'm only getting 5.6 which is disappointing. On longer highway cruises I can get closer to 5.0 but I drive normally (not particularly economically these days)... although..
Due to a horendous year on our roads down here the police have really tightened up lately so my economy might impove going forward... :wink:
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..But all I'm trying to do is top the oil up between servicings.
Have you needed to do that or are you just preparing for the possibility?
Probably not the official answer and opinion is sure to differ but you will be fine to top it up, if required, with almost any oil. Any mineral oil or synthetic oil that may, or may not, meet the ACEA B4 specification will do. Use w30 or w40 and don't worry. If you are purpose buying oil in advance you might as well get the right stuff. I guess I'm talking more about a situation where someone is sitting at a service station and hesitating using whatever is available for fear of damaging something.
So little oil should be needed it's most unlikely to modify the oil characteristics in any significant way. Much more important to not allow the level to drop and have it changed on time.
Of course when having it changed, make absolutely sure the ACEA B4 specification is met and the correct viscosity is used. There have been cases noted here where the dealer has got it wrong as well.
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What pisses me off even more is when i question a local dealer for the oil they use to service the CRDi...They say "dealer blend".....WTF is dealer blend....??
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my invoice and oil change sticker [on windscreen] both say castrol magnatech,but only they really know. both my cars are petrol 2.0 engines and the oil is a different type to a crdi.
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What pisses me off even more is when i question a local dealer for the oil they use to service the CRDi...They say "dealer blend".....WTF is dealer blend....??
Synically, I'd suggest it's whatever they got in bulk that month at the right price. Nothing wrong with that so long as it meets the required specification... but you won't know.
Do what many do. Supply your own oil. Of course you might never know if they used it or kept it. :evil:
I'm going to ask for the empty containers back. I need them again for the used oil from my intermediate oil changes I do myself anyway.
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What pisses me off even more is when i question a local dealer for the oil they use to service the CRDi...They say "dealer blend".....WTF is dealer blend....??
Often that will mean that they are buying bulk oil from a local supplier such as, in Sydney at least, Anglomoil.. good stuff, too
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Hi MrHammy,
here is a link to one brand that states ACEA-B4
http://www.fuchs.com.au/categories.asp?cID=9&c=273356
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I got the same answer from the dealer when I asked what brand of oil they used. Dealer blend but they couldn't give me a specific oil, so I buy my own (Shell Helix Ultra) and get their mobile service to do the servicing at my house so I can see what goes in.
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We had our CRDi serviced today (7,500 kms).
The invoice reads:
"Engine oil (ACAE B4) 5W-40 - SYNTHETIC ($45.45)"
No Brand mentioned, and the service sticker is a Hyundai sticker.
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What was your total price for youe service Blue..??
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What was your total price for youe service Blue..??
$165.00 mate.
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Robbing bunch of plicks here they want $240 for a 7500 "oil change"
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Robbing bunch of plicks here they want $240 for a 7500 "oil change"
That sounds odd...
The $165 I paid today included a wash and tyre blacking too, plus the normal printed vehicle report in its own little folder.
My Mrs asked how much the 15,000Km service will cost. The Service Manager (tapping keys on his computer) said....
(GET THIS!)
$240.
Are those "plicks" the ones just south of the river.... over the causeway?
i can't remember the name of the dealer, but a guy that works for me over there asked me for the details of the deal I got here in Newcastle.
He showed them to THAT dealer, and they basically laughed at him. He said they were almost NOT interested in even trying to sell him a car.
So I think "plicks" is probably a good description.
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I forgot to mention...
When I picked up the car NEW, I queried it NOT having a cargo net..
The web site at the time in one section said SLX's get one, another section said they don't (the new cars don't have them anymore BTW).
The site also states, "Hyundai reserves the right to change these specs without notice blah blah blah".
So I said, look guys, no big deal. Would have been nice to have, but it's not a necessity. Don't worry about it.
Anyhow, when I went to pick it up yesterday after the service, I was chatting to the salesman we bought it from while we waited and out of the blue he said, "oh I forgot... There's a cargo net here for you too... I will put it in the car for you".
They are one of the best car dealerships I have ever had to deal with.
Sales, after sales support, servicing.. All fantastic.
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Yep got the dealer in one but the service centre is a bit further past the causeway.....LOL
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Service Refill Capacity: 5.3 Litres
Filters:
Up to13-2-2008: 26320-2A002
13-2-2008-on: 26320-2A500
Hey, just gave hyundai our vin number,
and the filter their computer spat out is 26320-2a001
and the filter i got when i picked it up is 26320-3c100
Coments ???
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Hey, just gave hyundai our vin number,
and the filter their computer spat out is 26320-2a001
and the filter i got when i picked it up is 26320-3c100
Coments ???
Sorry m8.. got me stumped... :rolleyes:
Although I'm just about to get my 45,000 service I'll let you know what filter I end up with...
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Service Refill Capacity: 5.3 Litres
Filters:
Up to13-2-2008: 26320-2A002
13-2-2008-on: 26320-2A500
Hey, just gave hyundai our vin number,
and the filter their computer spat out is 26320-2a001
and the filter i got when i picked it up is 26320-3c100
Coments ???
m8 take it back as there is two different oil filters for the CRDi but i don't know the part numbers. the spares guy at a dealer told me as he wanted lots of details about my car and build date, then told me they have two different filters. i hate manufactures that change thing's like that in a short time makes it more complex buying service parts also at some point the older type filters will not be in stock.
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Mine is a Feb 2008 Build and the filter they sold me (cheap..$19) was..
Drum roll please....
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26320 2A001 (with 33E written next to it in biro?)
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hmm, interesting.
Ours is a jan 08 build
Called two places during the week, both gave same number.
Went to do the oil today.
Doesn't fit.......
Way to big...
Original; Inside dia, 26mm. Outside dia, 61mm. Length, 120mm.
Supplied; Inside dia, 40mm. Outside dia, 74.5mm. Length, 131mm.
Guess I'll just have to do two oil changes now thanks hyundai.
Wonder if they'll compensate me for the $100 of oil i had to put in with a dirty filter, and will have to drain out and replace AGAIN when they give me the right part.............
EDIT, at least I got to change the auto trans oil without drama.
GF recons it shifts much better now (15,000klm)
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That number I quoted is for the original one 61mm Diameter and 120mm long...That's what I got anyway, it's the same as what I got for the last 2 services.
$100 worth of oil.. :eek: what you using.. ???
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Hmm, sounds like right part number, incorrect supply.
Mobil1 0-40.
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Mobil1 0-40.
I'm too tight to pay $100 for my oil.. I spend about a third of that ($35 for Castrol Edge Sport on Special)
I believe Mobil 1 is better but not THAT much... :cool:
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Lets put it this way, we bought the car in march 08.
I'm doing it's 15,000k service now. (actually, 14,600 but who's counting)
I figure I can splurge once every 18 months.
At a cost of roughly $200 in materials (engine oil and filter, gearbox oil, air filter)
That works out to $2.80 a week and a few hours of my time to do the work.
So not really a lot when you consider;
Rego ~ $660 a year.
Insurance ~ $400 a year.
Tyres, fuel, polish, water.
Really, breaking it down this way, the $100 for 5 litres of oil works out to be almost nothing.
Lets not forget we don't have to worry about spark plugs, so there's $20 that can be used towards oil.
Plus, if you keep an eye out, you can get M1 0-40 on sale like I did. ($70)
EDIT, just thinking, it's only another $65 per 'service' over what your paying, thats 0.4c a K.
Or assuming 20,000k a year, $1.65 a week.
Sounds less painfull that way :D
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Mine is a Feb 2008 Build and the filter they sold me (cheap..$19) was..
Drum roll please....
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26320 2A001 (with 33E written next to it in biro?)
Daz mine is April 2008 build so think same as your's, and the price was cheaper for me too, first filter i bought was more expencive then the last time i bought one the price had come down just i think i payed $20?
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EDIT, just thinking, it's only another $65 per 'service' over what your paying, thats 0.4c a K.
Or assuming 20,000k a year, $1.65 a week.
Sounds less painfull that way :D
Don't get me wrong D-R I don't begrudge you using it... Like I said I'm a tight a** to a point..
I won't compromise my warranty or safety though (except I was too stingy to pay pay the extra $990 for "asc" or whatever it's called when I bought my i30 in march last year) :-[
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Wait, no no, no probs here.
I just love the expensive things in life.
Example, i have various tools, there are stahlwille.
extremely over the top, completely out of most peoples reach or even imagination as to cost.
But im in a position where i can sorta afford them (cant justify them though)
theres a saying, Quality is remembered long after the price is forgotten.
I like spending money, and i've had too many cheap things break when i needed them....
I'm sure mobil are purely just price gouging, but people pay it......
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I have not had a problem buying filters, mine is April 08 build, i give them my rego papers and the parts guy goes and gets the filter. never had a problem now ready for my 45,000k service will get one this week.
all i could think of when i saw the earlier filter is larger , they might be trying to raise oil pressure, if you put a smaller filter that can raise oil pressure, BUT it will need changine slighty more as can be slightly more restrictive with less volume . but would not be that dramatic to worry about.
mobile oil is american so well marketed, in USA they think it's cheap, price Redline oil that cost me $150 for 4L's but i don't use it in the i30 i use same as Daz and change it every 7,000k, the service guy i use wants me to switch to ELF, i think ELF & Redline are the only two syntetic oil's i have personally seen work better as i have inspected motors that run on them in extream condition's.
i've never used Mobile so could not say.
but my friend that builds a lot of different motors and dyno's, also pulls motors down and rebuilds for special aplication's has been saying good things about Castrol Oil and he normaly does not talk that much about oil's
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Well, all sorted.
Went back today and yes they had the right numbers on paper (2a001)
But picked the wrong one of the shelf (3c001)
Swapped it over.
I didn't worry originally as i thought it might be a change in numbering.
This is VERY common in my work.
Order one number, get the right part but with a totally different number.
Real pain sometimes.......
As for oils, i guess all top shelf oil's will perform very similarly.
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Hi everyone,
I bought an oil filter the other day for my '09 crdi ( 26320-2a500 ) but I purchased it from a Kia dealer, not Hyundai. The filter is the same in every way, as you'd expect with the same part number, but instead of paying $33.00 it came it at $21. Yeah it's only a $12 saving but every little bit counts eh?
I enquired about the 26320-2a002 for the early build i30's but found the pricing to be within a few cents, so no savings to be had there. :'(
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That's interesting Jason...My early model i30 (Feb 2008 build) uses 26320 2A001 at around A$21 from Hyundai...
I am getting prices from some Melbourne Hyundai Dealers for Fuel and Oil filters because the Tassie dealers want $142 for the fuel filter :eek: :rolleyes:
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Dazza,
Once you get your quote from the Melbounre dealer, you may wish to try a Kia dealer for the fuel filter for a price comparison. They will need the Hyundai part number to be sure of correct fitment. The oil filter I mentioned was to fit a Kia Soul, which I think runs the U2 motor so the fuel filter may be different but it's worth a go, especially because you're so tight with your cash..... :twisted:
j/k
Jase
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When one has made the wise choice to buy an i30 one continues to expect similar good value for money for all ones other purchases :mrgreen:
I must be tight too :rolleyes:
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My parents bought me up to be very frugal (and I'm having trouble losing the habit) although I do lash out with the odd car and gadget... :mrgreen:
Thanks Jason..I may try the kia dealer... :wink:
P.S. If you save me some money.. I might think you are a bit special too... :lol:
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im not a tight a$$ or shy to cash,but im always looking for a bargain. why not. :mrgreen:
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P.S. If you save me some money.. I might think you are a bit special too... :lol:
Thanks Dazz, but only a "bit" special? Geez, tough crowd.
Jase