[mickd]

This thread will be added to as I trundle along with my bikes. Am taking a heap of pics to remember how it was.
Bandit 1250 - fuel starvation and service.
Bandi is starving for fuel and problem located through another forum .
Will change engine oil & filter too.

On trolley with tank and seat removed.



Fuid level and colour good. This is located  inder passenger seat.



Steel braided line is fuel at 45psi to fuel rail and injectors.



Bottom of tank witthpump & filter unit removed.



Pump & filter . The brown thing on the right is the filter. There is a second one inside the unit near the pressure reg on the left. This is the culprit.

[Dazzler]

Now this thread is a good idea. 

[mickd]

Stripped the pump and replaced suction filter and  cleaned mesh filter on HP side of pump- the problem.
Suction filter - old and new.



The HP mesh fiter is encased in the body between the small hole and larger one
beneath  for pressure relief valve. Water at tap pressure  will not flow between.


Starting to clean with small piece of wire,  degreaser and carb cleaner.


After about 15 mins of above.


pic host

View of mesh from bottom of unit.


Back together.


Should have ordered an air filter (der), quick clean up in progress. Put new top on bench the other daytoo  clean 


Also refitted pump to tank, dropped engine oil and made a deflector for oil from oil filter so it wouldn't get all over the headers.( or my nice new trolley.)

[nzenigma]

Also refitted pump to tank, dropped engine oil and made a deflector for oil from oil filter so it wouldn't get all over the headers.( or my nice new trolley.)

This man is either high camp or a closet surgeon.

  well done ; thanks, G.

[yodm]

@mickd can you take photos of the trolley? that looks interesting. as an Italian bike owner, Jap bike issues are not interesting 

[mickd]

@yodm
This section under "bike trolley " has some pictures.
If you need more info,  let us know. 

[nzenigma]

...
Bandi is starving for fuel and problem located through another forum .
Will change engine oil & filter too.

 

It can be a long journey wading through the keyboard warriors' bosh, tosh and drivel. But somewhere there is usually a gem. 

You probably know I spent HOURS trying to find info on my Bimmer motor upgrade. I was about to give up , but re-read an endless mind numbing thread. Found the answer on last page ( page 52    !!)

[mickd]

...
Bandi is starving for fuel and problem located through another forum .
Will change engine oil & filter too.

 

It can be a long journey wading through the keyboard warriors' bosh, tosh and drivel. But somewhere there is usually a gem. 

You probably know I spent HOURS trying to find info on my Bimmer motor upgrade. I was about to give up , but re-read an endless mind numbing thread. Found the answer on last page ( page 52    !!)

The site is excellent.  Original person spent 4 days looking for problem.
That was in 2011 and there's about 9 pages of  " thank you so much ", "my dealer had no idea about it either ".  Asked re: service manual and was emailed a complete workshop version. 

[mickd]

WHAT AM I ? ?
The winner gets to guess where it came from and to express the "joy" of the event.

[Hati]

WHAT AM I ? ?

Allen key head broken off?

[mickd]

WHAT AM I ? ?

Allen key head broken off?

@Hati
Keep going , so far so good.

[Hati]

Ran out of puff I have a Honda and two Beemers, no Suzukis in the stable to guess where they use bolts that need allen keys. 

[mickd]

Ran out of puff I have a Honda and two Beemers, no Suzukis in the stable to guess where they use bolts that need allen keys.

Of course it HAD to be the long end of 125mm allen key
     
That was still in the bolt head.   After about 30 mins of gentle tapping around the bolt head with next size allen key and a magnetic pick tool, it came out 

[Hati]

Could turn the bike upside down and shake You just need to weld two hoops around your bike trolley They always break and stay in the bolt heads At least from my experience...

[mickd]

Could turn the bike upside down and shake You just need to weld two hoops around your bike trolley They always break and stay in the bolt heads At least from my experience...

 
Can laugh now - not then -swear jar full.

[mickd]

Continued on today.
Apart from drama with allen key  fairly uneventful.
Had a good look inside airbox. 4 big butterflies,  but they are the secondarys.
Primarys are on other side closer to engine.
2nds open when primary suck the air out between them. They smooth /retard throttle response.



Primary are gold colour



Radiator cap and fluid pump with coil packs directory on top of plug.






Last time I was at S/cheap I grabbed a small funnel,  got distracted by something shiny and left it behind. So made this :



Tank on, oil done , fired up and all sweet.  Turn ignition on and Fuel pump stops after about 3 seconds instead of 10 seconds now 

[The Gonz]

Bike porn 

[nzenigma]

No funnel? WW2 trick used by my Dad.: place match stick across mouth of container> have match stick extending down> gently tip container> oil or petrol follows match directly down toward and into opening..

[mickd]

Bike porn 

  payback 

[mickd]

No funnel? WW2 trick used by my Dad.: place match stick across mouth of container> have match stick extending down> gently tip container> oil or petrol follows match directly down toward and into opening..

Sounds like a plan,  knowing my luck the match would end up in sump.
Could pour standing up this way.

[nzenigma]

No funnel? WW2 trick used by my Dad.: place match stick across mouth of container> have match stick extending down> gently tip container> oil or petrol follows match directly down toward and into opening..

Sounds like a plan,  knowing my luck the match would end up in sump.
Could pour standing up this way.

Ok but, as you would tell an American,  just dont strike the match. 

[mickd]

The Grey G:
With current restrictions & us staying fairly low & 2012 not far away, the Grey G is on the menu.  It's 30 y.o. next year - historic rego. 
Seat , side covers off.

Has a cute stainless steel 4-1 system made in Holland, with a 250mm  aluminum no baffle muffler .



Removed plugs and put some oil down the barrels. Removed rocker cover and  timing cover , drowned all valve train with oil (,sauce bottle works well ) and tried to turn over by hand. All good, no jamming or nasty noises.
Bit of wear on cam lobes nothing drastic at 90k km.
Next pic shows LHS of cams, valves, deep recess for spark plugs and the bolts that a hole in the centre and at each side to spray oil over everything at 30psi.
Main oil pressure is about 60 psi.



Unfortunately it appears that head gasket is leaking oil.  oh well
Have removed exhaust and will clean up and have a better look.
Almost finished 2nd trolley as well.

[mickd]

4-2-1 system :



Cover back on ( so crap didn't get in valves) and start cleaning so I see if just head oil leak or the block as well. Using dishwashing liquid and degreaser mixed together, a toothbrush , wire and a rag or two .
Will install carbs & re-install exhaust so it can start and run. Once running install driveline  and test engine /box / driveline.



Much later ,



Turn it over on starter motor tomorrow    - remembered something a short while ago,  lost THE key when we moved   
 Plug 'n 'Play installation to be hooked up tomorrow.

[mickd]

Been a few days , P&P starter & spun over -oil got to top of engine 👍.
Did a filter & oil change.  Called locksmith,  happened to be nearby,  she took seat lock that I had removed to help get a good start on key code.  1 hr later came back and Presto ! Key cut to suit the locks and she gave me all of the codes on the bikes and some extras as asked.  Bargain.
Spent today getting hydraulic system for the clutch going - lost more hair .
 Fluid travels approx 2 metres and the entire thing was empty.  Won.

[mickd]

Update:
After much swearing the carbs are off black bike and on grey one. Amazing how hard pvc gets with age and air filter side of carbs are oval shaped, had to put arm up inside airbox to help push/spread to shape.
 Battery back in, all lights work, plugs cleaned & gapped & installed.
As an aside:
Both master and slave clutch cylinders need a rebuild - $60 for parts.
Have found through a lucky look at a forum that oil leak could be from drain holes that allow oil & water to drain out of spark plug wells. Oil comes from leaking gasket around plug wells in rocker cover. Oil is sprayed around rocker cover at roughly 30psi at 4 locations - 5mm away from plug wells, so with a bit of age. Had cover off initially and greased all gaskets and seals in there.
Need to add fuel,  probably Monday 

[mickd]

Bandit :
Took Bandit for first spin since service.
 It went well before I cleaned the fuel mesh.
Found a deserted bit of road, at 25kmh in 2nd snapped it wide open.
A couple seconds later shifted into 3rd at 120 & rocketed another 40 & I shut off.
Goes well - k- ing oath !. 
 

[nzenigma]

fellow degenerate soul.

An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.

[CraigB]

An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.

Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help

[mickd]

An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.

Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help

Tyre smoke ?
Bet you had the front off too .
Did give it another crack in an 80, @ + 100 , shut off   

[nzenigma]

An hour ago, I SMOKED the Z3 past old Harry's house in at similar manner.  120 kph in 2nd!   

As I returned, idling past him at 3800 rpm,  he was lying on his lawn,  but he looked up  and motioned a thank you  wave to me ... it seems he has lost all fear of getting COVID-19.

Sure he wasn't choking on the smokey Z3 fumes...he might have been waving for help

  Nah, It was all applause, he thought he was back at Bathurst again,