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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => SUSPENSION & STEERING => Topic started by: CraigB on October 20, 2015, 07:27:56

Title: Bose suspensions
Post by: CraigB on October 20, 2015, 07:27:56
Anyone seen these Bose suspension setups, pretty amazing stuff.
Would be better if the video was in English though :neutral:
:link: Suspension BOSE - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyf4rfT7bHU)
Checkout how the car jumps an obstacle at the end of this video.
:link: Bose Suspension - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNlJ8OGTfNU)
Title: Re: Bose suspensions
Post by: sundiz on October 24, 2015, 13:23:28
Looks like a smooth ride.

I think Delphi has some sort of similar active system. MagneRide or something like that. There is also similar ECASS system that can be built in military vehicles:
:link: FrontLine Magazine L-3 ECASS - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vArnkbQ1ws)
Title: Re: Bose suspensions
Post by: Just Rick on October 24, 2015, 13:35:12
 :goodjob2: All those videos were  great,last one for me was best as I could understand what he was talking about,but for me personally,just another complicated system on a vehicle to F*#k up and add thousands more to the price of a new vehicle  :fum:
Title: Re: Bose suspensions
Post by: sundiz on October 24, 2015, 17:42:21
,just another complicated system on a vehicle to F*#k up and add thousands more to the price of a new vehicle

True. They are nice when they work, but when something goes wrong... :evil: Those systems should be an option for those who want it. Not like in Mercedes, where in wagons you had airmatic air suspension as a standard in the rear axel. And even in the old 124 series where you had self leveling hydraulic suspension. Parts are expensive and usually not so reliable. I've seen several modern mercs in the parking lots with one or both rear sides slammed to the ground. And fixing that with oem parts is expensive. Luckily there are now better third party parts, but for those who are not so in to cars and do not know what to look for, it's expensive to fix.

Citroen used to have that hydraulic suspension in their cars. Are they still using that? One guy told that in the old C5 it was really good. You were able to rise the car when driving in heavy snow so you did not get stuck so easily. Also it absorbed the bumbs really good and the ride was really smooth. On the down side he meantioned that the "feel" of the car was really bad. Like you could not feel how the road surface was or what the car was actually doing.
Title: Re: Bose suspensions
Post by: diablo on October 24, 2015, 18:57:02
,just another complicated system on a vehicle to F*#k up and add thousands more to the price of a new vehicle

True. They are nice when they work, but when something goes wrong... :evil: Those systems should be an option for those who want it. Not like in Mercedes, where in wagons you had airmatic air suspension as a standard in the rear axel. And even in the old 124 series where you had self leveling hydraulic suspension. Parts are expensive and usually not so reliable. I've seen several modern mercs in the parking lots with one or both rear sides slammed to the ground. And fixing that with oem parts is expensive. Luckily there are now better third party parts, but for those who are not so in to cars and do not know what to look for, it's expensive to fix.

Citroen used to have that hydraulic suspension in their cars. Are they still using that? One guy told that in the old C5 it was really good. You were able to rise the car when driving in heavy snow so you did not get stuck so easily. Also it absorbed the bumbs really good and the ride was really smooth. On the down side he meantioned that the "feel" of the car was really bad. Like you could not feel how the road surface was or what the car was actually doing.

Seems Citroen are thinking of scrapping it.

:link: Peugeot Citroen ?to scrap hydropneumatic suspension? - report by CAR Magazine (http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/industry-news/citroen/peugeot-citroen-to-scrap-hydropneumatic-suspension---report/)

I had the hydropneumatic on a Citroen GS many years ago and it was great. Though I needed to replace most of the pipework and a couple of suspension spheres, which was expensive even though I did all the work myself.
Title: Re: Bose suspensions
Post by: cruiserfied on October 27, 2015, 08:27:23
Keep it simple. A good quality tuned strut and tuned dual rate spring will do anything that stuff will and be way more reliable.
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