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GOT PROBLEMS OR ISSUES? => DIESEL => Topic started by: tomtech auto on April 14, 2018, 21:48:42

Title: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: tomtech auto on April 14, 2018, 21:48:42
hi everybody, anyone had somthing similar??
wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ecu fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Battery good,starter ok,ignition key looks fine as i can hear click relay when try start,
Have send power signal to starter it turn but still no start.
so for me looks ECU, or ABS or CAN wire broke???
Any ideas?Any wiring diagram? or ECU pinout?
thanks
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: tw2005 on April 14, 2018, 22:25:43
hi everybody, anyone had somthing similar??
wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ecu fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Battery good,starter ok,ignition key looks fine as i can hear click relay when try start,
Have send power signal to starter it turn but still no start.
so for me looks ECU, or ABS or CAN wire broke???
Any ideas?Any wiring diagram? or ECU pinout?
thanks
No, but I'm confused with the no turn, starter ok? What lead up to this event?
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: tomtech auto on April 14, 2018, 22:51:27
starter tested 100%
question. what could cause not communicate ECU?
broken wire, abs unit ,electric power steering?
immo looks ok.
but not crank
no start when push
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: tw2005 on April 14, 2018, 22:59:48
Sorry, I have no idea, this is way way outside my knowledge, So it's one of these button type soft start vehicles.

sorry Bud.

Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: nzenigma on April 14, 2018, 23:09:22
ECU will not stop it cranking.

The most common causes of this P1678 code being stored are due to a defective input speed sensor or output speed sensor. Other common causes include shorted, open, corroded, or damaged wiring circuits or connectors.

But ignore that for the moment , you are overthinking the problem.
-trace battery connections, couple of fuses on the +ve terminal, if need be, put jumper on to starter SOLENOID after you make sure you have power available to the starter MOTOR. It should crank.

Just make sure that Im not overthinking: First check is always the battery? Put lights on and try to crank_ do lights go out? Eg crook battery,
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: tomtech auto on April 15, 2018, 22:33:15
 Now i know Ecu faulty 100%
Located can wires white/blue then connected to diagnostic tool straight beside Ecu connector ,so i can communicate with all modules except engine control module, so it means no communication ecu canbus,and i 100% sure if you unplug ecu in any driving vehicle ,you will not be able turn engine with starter because signal from ignition lock goes to ecu and then ecu sending signal to starter relay.
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: nzenigma on April 15, 2018, 22:52:07
Now i know Ecu faulty 100%
Located can wires white/blue then connected to diagnostic tool straight beside Ecu connector ,so i can communicate with all modules except engine control module, so it means no communication ecu canbus,and i 100% sure if you unplug ecu in any driving vehicle ,you will not be able turn engine with starter because signal from ignition lock goes to ecu and then ecu sending signal to starter relay.

"ignition lock goes to ecu and then ecu sending signal to starter relay"
Signal goes from antenna coil (at lock) to the immobiliser which then signals ECU to open engine management.
Given your above assertion, what is clicking?
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: nzenigma on April 16, 2018, 04:41:29
Been thinking about your ECU.
You may have a faulty unit but that is rare.
The ECU and engine management " module' are the same unit. The immobiliser and ECU communicate with each other. If key code is correct engine management will function and also starter relay becomes hot.
But engine will not function if the transmission is not in N or D. Worth checking the switch/wires for continuity.
2 other points. You are getting codes, the ECU is reading and displaying them.
Taking the ECU out of the car will stop it functioning. But in doing so you not only remove part of the com system , you remove the switched ground for the start relay.
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: nzenigma on April 23, 2018, 22:13:27
Hi @tomtech auto ,

Interested to know what you have found or have you cured fault.  :) G
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: Omerfs on December 11, 2018, 23:17:45
Guys I am facing the same issue any suggestion how it was solved. Went to three mechanics no one knows anything.  Hyundai dealers are saying next available date is 23 feb.  :crazy1:

I have 2013 premium i30  suddenly didn’t start after parking.
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: Dazzler on December 11, 2018, 23:38:12
Guys I am facing the same issue any suggestion how it was solved. Went to three mechanics no one knows anything.  Hyundai dealers are saying next available date is 23 feb.  :crazy1:

I have 2013 premium i30  suddenly didn’t start after parking.

Welcome. Sorry to hear that. I can't really help unfortunately but this is a classic example of why we get frustrated with people who join, milk our guys for info then don't come back with an update.

Read back through this thread and browse the forum until you get some help. You might get some ideas. Good luck.  :undecided:
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: nzenigma on December 12, 2018, 03:37:46
Guys I am facing the same issue any suggestion how it was solved. Went to three mechanics no one knows anything.  Hyundai dealers are saying next available date is 23 feb.  :crazy1:

I have 2013 premium i30  suddenly didn’t start after parking.

There too many reasons why a car wont start. If you browse the forum you will realise how much they vary. Apply the closest to your situation.
Title: Re: wont turn ,wont start ,no communication with ECU fault P1678.C1611.C1612.C1702
Post by: mickd on December 12, 2018, 06:12:16
Guys I am facing the same issue any suggestion how it was solved. Went to three mechanics no one knows anything.  Hyundai dealers are saying next available date is 23 feb.  :crazy1:

I have 2013 premium i30  suddenly didn’t start after parking.

23-2-19 bullshit.
Who did you get it from ? ,hy dealer or other ? Either way sounds like its time for a very vocal complaint to staff and customers in service and sales section until you get a better result.
No swearing etc, just ask again and again,  loudly not yelling, keep your spot at the desk refuse to take no for an answer, if they serve someone else, keep talking to them.
 They  can ask you to leave,  they cant make you, only you can .
Good luck
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