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Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 09, 2019, 06:29:09
Greg Rust and Aaron Noonan have been confirmed as the hosts of both the free-to-air broadcast and live stream for the TCR Australia Series.
Available on Australian free-to-air broadcaster SBS in HD, the live stream will also be available globally via the TCR Australia and Shannons Nationals website.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: nzenigma on May 09, 2019, 07:06:45
Greg Rust and Aaron Noonan have been confirmed as the hosts of both the free-to-air broadcast and live stream for the TCR Australia Series.
Available on Australian free-to-air broadcaster SBS in HD, the live stream will also be available globally via the TCR Australia and Shannons Nationals website.

What the *^%* is TCR?

Fearing this was a new disease spread by some unknown migrants called Noon and Rust , I phoned Shannons who I trust.

Its Touring Cars  doing stuff...Right ?  :victory:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on May 09, 2019, 07:44:51
Awesome .. I heard about this a little while ago and wanted to see how it went. Hopefully it generates a good following.

I've looked ahead on the guide and it's on SBS-HD Saturday May 18th at 1400hrs-1500hrs, and Sunday May 19th at 1300hrs-1500hrs.

Thanks for the information!
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 09, 2019, 08:23:36
Greg Rust and Aaron Noonan have been confirmed as the hosts of both the free-to-air broadcast and live stream for the TCR Australia Series.
Available on Australian free-to-air broadcaster SBS in HD, the live stream will also be available globally via the TCR Australia and Shannons Nationals website.

What the *^%* is TCR?

Fearing this was a new disease spread by some unknown migrants called Noon and Rust , I phoned Shannons who I trust.

Its Touring Cars  doing stuff...Right ?  :victory:

 :link: TCR Australia Official Website | Homologated Cars | TCR Series (https://www.tcraustralia.com)

Bloody Kiwis! Try to keep up.  :crazy1:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 08:29:43
SO MUCH EXCITEDNESS. WWOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 09, 2019, 08:36:21
Greg Rust and Aaron Noonan have been confirmed as the hosts of both the free-to-air broadcast and live stream for the TCR Australia Series.
Available on Australian free-to-air broadcaster SBS in HD, the live stream will also be available globally via the TCR Australia and Shannons Nationals website.

What the *^%* is TCR?

Fearing this was a new disease spread by some unknown migrants called Noon and Rust , I phoned Shannons who I trust.

Its Touring Cars  doing stuff...Right ?  :victory:

 :link: TCR Australia Official Website | Homologated Cars | TCR Series (https://www.tcraustralia.com)

Bloody Kiwis! Try to keep up.  :crazy1:
Could be early symptoms of Hypothermia :scared:

I think I'm ready for a change. Losing interset with V8s and with Ricciardo diving into a crap team and going nowhere TCR looks like it's going to be hot. Some serious pride at stake looking at the players. :mrgreen:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 09, 2019, 09:40:43
Must remember to watch it! :happydance:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 12:31:14
Greg Rust and Aaron Noonan have been confirmed as the hosts of both the free-to-air broadcast and live stream for the TCR Australia Series.
Available on Australian free-to-air broadcaster SBS in HD, the live stream will also be available globally via the TCR Australia and Shannons Nationals website.

What the *^%* is TCR?

Fearing this was a new disease spread by some unknown migrants called Noon and Rust , I phoned Shannons who I trust.

Its Touring Cars  doing stuff...Right ?  :victory:

 :link: TCR Australia Official Website | Homologated Cars | TCR Series (https://www.tcraustralia.com)

Bloody Kiwis! Try to keep up.  :crazy1:
Could be early symptoms of Hypothermia :scared:

I think I'm ready for a change. Losing interset with V8s and with Ricciardo diving into a crap team and going nowhere TCR looks like it's going to be hot. Some serious pride at stake looking at the players. :mrgreen:

V8SC has become over regulated and highest bid wins sort of show.
I stopped watching, except for Bathurst, when they went to foxtel. Haven't missed it at all.

I'm so pumped for some back to basics Touring Car racing. As long as they let the drivers race, it will be great. Already huge interest in the series.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 13:25:31
So what's the deal with the TCR series, I can see they're limited to factory engines at a maximum size of 2ltr (petrol and diesel), all vehicles listed show 350BHP which tells me certain engine modifications must have been done...are they restricted to no more than 350BHP :undecided:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 13:34:44
So what's the deal with the TCR series, I can see they're limited to factory engines at a maximum size of 2ltr (petrol and diesel), all vehicles listed show 350BHP which tells me certain engine modifications must have been done...are they restricted to no more than 350BHP :undecided:

The TCR regulations, formulated by former World Touring Car Championship manager Marciello Lotti, were developed in 2014 as a cost-effective touring car racing alternative.
 
Eligible cars include all front-wheel drive C-Segment hatchbacks or sedans, powered by production–based turbocharged petrol or diesel engines with a capacity of up to 2-litres.
 
There are currently four internationally-sanctioned TCR Series competing around the world, plus 12 national or regional series utilising the TCR regulations as their main rule book.
 
Manufacturers with cars currently homologated to TCR Series rules around the world include Audi, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Peugeot, Renault, Subaru and Volkswagen, among others.
 
TCR Series rules stipulate that fully-fledged factory owned entires are prohibited, however, car manufacturers are encouraged to support its cars entered by professional or private teams.
 
The category has produced some of the most breath-taking, close and exciting motor racing, thanks to its level playing field amongst a wide-range of car manufacturers from around the globe.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 13:44:51
@cruiserfied I'd read that on the TCR site but it still doesn't explain what the limitations on power are.

A stock Hyundai N is 270BHP - the TCR N is 350BHP as is every other vehicle listed so I was assuming 350BHP must be the limit on the mix of the 1500/1600/1800/2000 engines used :Dunno:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 13:46:24
Well you know as much as me then.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 13:48:05
 :head_knock: :snigger:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 14:06:14
I have only read the FIA regs for 2018 WTCR.
No power figures are mentioned.
Engines are sealed and supplied by manufacturer.
ECU's are sealed and cannot be overwritten.
Boost can be adjusted by FIA officials under balance of performance to even out the vehicles.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 14:17:43
I was thinking there must be some piggyback tunning done like Racechip or such to be able to achieve a 70BHP increase, intercooler and downpipe upgrades might be allowed also at that power increase if they're not allowed to open the engines :undecided:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: nzenigma on May 09, 2019, 15:36:00
@cruiserfied I'd read that on the TCR site but it still doesn't explain what the limitations on power are.

A stock Hyundai N is 270BHP - the TCR N is 350BHP as is every other vehicle listed so I was assuming 350BHP must be the limit on the mix of the 1500/1600/1800/2000 engines used :Dunno:

Watch it Craig, you're starting to sound like me.  :faint:   :evil:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: nzenigma on May 09, 2019, 15:40:11

Bloody Kiwis! Try to keep up.  :crazy1:

Jeeez, Kettle calling the pot black.   :happydance:

But hey I agree, its back to good old man on man racing. Brilliant.  :goodjob2:

Thanks mate. I'll be watching.

PS. Back home in Jan, I watched some crazy racing - SsangYong Utes.
 :link: Watch Some SsangYong Pickup Truck Racing from New Zealand - autoevolution (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/watch-some-ssangyong-pickup-truck-racing-from-new-zealand-118150.html)

Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 15:45:51
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370)

@CraigB This should link to the 2018 regs.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 15:52:24
Watch it Craig, you're starting to sound like me.  :faint:   :evil:
:wnhelp:  :) :goodjob2:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 16:22:00
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370)

@CraigB This should link to the 2018 regs.
Thanks Tim, yeah the ECU's are sealed as you mentioned so no adjustments or piggyback setups there, any OEM intercooler can be used up to 8ltrs, looks like different turbos or impellers may be permitted (I'm not sure on that one :undecided: ) exhaust changes after the turbo are allowed with using regulated Catalytic and exhaust needs to be within the 110 dba at 6000rpm.



Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 09, 2019, 21:54:27
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 09, 2019, 22:16:17

Bloody Kiwis! Try to keep up.  :crazy1:

Jeeez, Kettle calling the pot black.   :happydance:

But hey I agree, its back to good old man on man racing. Brilliant.  :goodjob2:

Thanks mate. I'll be watching.

PS. Back home in Jan, I watched some crazy racing - SsangYong Utes.
 :link: Watch Some SsangYong Pickup Truck Racing from New Zealand - autoevolution (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/watch-some-ssangyong-pickup-truck-racing-from-new-zealand-118150.html)

Thanks for the link Gary. Well that was better than I expected! :crazy2:

One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

That seems unfair!  :undecided:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 22:43:23
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

 :eek: :eek: :scared: :scared: :faint: :faint:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 09, 2019, 22:58:52
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

 :eek: :eek: :scared: :scared: :faint: :faint:
Kelly Bros Racing has entered a couple. Australian Rally Champion,  Molly Taylor is driving one of them.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 09, 2019, 23:18:47
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

 :eek: :eek: :scared: :scared: :faint: :faint:
Kelly Bros Racing has entered a couple. Australian Rally Champion,  Molly Taylor is driving one of them.

..and I believe she's a pretty good steerer too!  :eek:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 09, 2019, 23:27:13
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

 :eek: :eek: :scared: :scared: :faint: :faint:
Kelly Bros Racing has entered a couple. Australian Rally Champion,  Molly Taylor is driving one of them.

Yeah i'd seen. It was an "Oh yeah" moment
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on May 11, 2019, 01:07:26
Just found this clip on YouTube of the FIA World TCR version .. I expect we'll see similar type of action in our local series too.. The race begins about 18 minutes  in..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek4QR28O3bM
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 11, 2019, 03:02:18
Thanks for  that. I think there is a dedicated channel for TCR on you tube. When I'm not busy I must watch some, including that one.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 11, 2019, 03:29:16
The TCR footage I've seen is  excellent.
My only concern is that, the British and European Touring car championships based on 2litre cars in the past were also excellent but didn't translate well to Australia.  The cars were the same but the racing suffered from poor numbers and a dearth of competitive cars.
Hopefully TCR will not go the same way.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 11, 2019, 03:33:25
List so far,  here.
 :link: TCR cars arrive in Australia  - Speedcafe (https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/04/30/tcr-cars-arrive-in-australia/)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 11, 2019, 07:49:28
List so far,  here.
 :link: TCR cars arrive in Australia  - Speedcafe (https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/04/30/tcr-cars-arrive-in-australia/)

I'm surprised to see GRM and Kelly Racing running two different makes each. Surely that makes thing more complicated than just one. Parts and knowledge...  :crazy2:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 13, 2019, 15:49:37
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370)

@CraigB This should link to the 2018 regs.
Thanks Tim, yeah the ECU's are sealed as you mentioned so no adjustments or piggyback setups there, any OEM intercooler can be used up to 8ltrs, looks like different turbos or impellers may be permitted (I'm not sure on that one :undecided: ) exhaust changes after the turbo are allowed with using regulated Catalytic and exhaust needs to be within the 110 dba at 6000rpm.

I contacted TCR and they said the regs are global so those 2018 regs i put up should be pretty dang close to what we will see.

One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

The Subaru's entered in TCR are using a 6-speed frontwheel drive gearbox with an inline 4 transverse mounted engine. Not very Subaru at all.
Also strange that the regulations state ctankshaft can be moved only 20mm from original orientation. They've turned the damn thing 90*
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on May 13, 2019, 17:48:43
The Subaru's entered in TCR are using a 6-speed frontwheel drive gearbox with an inline 4 transverse mounted engine. Not very Subaru at all.
Also strange that the regulations state ctankshaft can be moved only 20mm from original orientation. They've turned the damn thing 90*
How the hell do they get away with that :disapp:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 14, 2019, 01:05:23
The Subaru's entered in TCR are using a 6-speed frontwheel drive gearbox with an inline 4 transverse mounted engine. Not very Subaru at all.
Also strange that the regulations state ctankshaft can be moved only 20mm from original orientation. They've turned the damn thing 90*
How the hell do they get away with that :disapp:

I was disapointed when i read that. I thought TCR was meant to be a more back to basics series.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 14, 2019, 09:37:50
3rd Hyundai in TCR this weekend.

 :link: Third Hyundai entered for TCR Australia Series opener in Sydney - TCR Australia (https://www.tcraustralia.com/third-hyundai-entered-for-tcr-australia-series-opener-in-sydney/?fbclid=IwAR3bWm4KixfLu0dsCIG2ZTNZnQKEafYjtkrkd02MgbcUH0kHMQvRu815tX0)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on May 15, 2019, 14:06:29
Awesome .. I posted a question on their Youtube account asking if the races will be uploaded after the broadcast occurs in case people miss it live.. Hopefully they respond.

I'll be attempting to record it on the PVR so hopefully I'll be able to share it later if anyone were interested.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: cruiserfied on May 15, 2019, 14:36:46
Awesome .. I posted a question on their Youtube account asking if the races will be uploaded after the broadcast occurs in case people miss it live.. Hopefully they respond.

I'll be attempting to record it on the PVR so hopefully I'll be able to share it later if anyone were interested.

Send them a message via Facebook. They were very responsive to to my questions.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 15, 2019, 19:55:43
Awesome .. I posted a question on their Youtube account asking if the races will be uploaded after the broadcast occurs in case people miss it live.. Hopefully they respond.

I'll be attempting to record it on the PVR so hopefully I'll be able to share it later if anyone were interested.
Shouldn't be any trouble recording off SBS.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 16, 2019, 01:58:53
Updated entry list.

 :link: FINAL TCR AUSTRALIA ENTRY CONFIRMED FOR SYDNEY - Auto Action (https://autoaction.com.au/2019/05/16/final-tcr-australia-entry-confirmed-for-sydney?fbclid=IwAR05aR3lpkedGtNmHJ63W2ugRea_FWco56RTd7K-TtZ9WL43m7LT6Seg6jY)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 17, 2019, 06:37:39
Three of the top four fastest practice times in first session belong to the three i30s in the field.
Third place is a Civic Type R


(https://i.ibb.co/nn0pDs8/60641907-2368586449875802-6446250375149256704-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3MsK0yY)


(https://i.ibb.co/bRX44pH/60360405-2368612749873172-5940270414130315264-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Z1xQQyH)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2019, 08:05:13
Awesome!
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 17, 2019, 08:19:17
Not sure if this has been linked yet but this is a live stream of the whole meeting from (I think), 10.30am tomorrow.

 :link: Shannons Nationals TV ? Shannons Nationals (http://www.thenationals.com.au/live/)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 17, 2019, 09:38:55
Hope this will show up.
Hyundai #1 in second practice session.
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcafe.com%2F%3Fp%3D446641&h=AT1FyfByylgrjYqK-fO-fC_xi8xWRBnIGlFwOUELmcWnisI0Xq39OI0d6V4dqqQnt52vAQf0ojNHFRNRoYMnGZ16R8dsNe3SNUqZp_Vh7mLybyYf9wqTCEh0zjGLHdbw5Jlbg4mt0Q (https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcafe.com%2F%3Fp%3D446641&h=AT1FyfByylgrjYqK-fO-fC_xi8xWRBnIGlFwOUELmcWnisI0Xq39OI0d6V4dqqQnt52vAQf0ojNHFRNRoYMnGZ16R8dsNe3SNUqZp_Vh7mLybyYf9wqTCEh0zjGLHdbw5Jlbg4mt0Q)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: pug20g on May 17, 2019, 09:52:09
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

 :eek: :eek: :scared: :scared: :faint: :faint:

I believe the cars are all limited to 350hp, FWD and sedan/hatch, sorry no wagons!

list to the cars here:
 :link: TCR Cars - TCR Australia | Homologated Cars | TCR Series (https://www.tcraustralia.com/cars/)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 17, 2019, 09:59:27
Hope this will show up.
Hyundai #1 in second practice session.
http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcafe.com%2F%3Fp%3D446641&h=AT1FyfByylgrjYqK-fO-fC_xi8xWRBnIGlFwOUELmcWnisI0Xq39OI0d6V4dqqQnt52vAQf0ojNHFRNRoYMnGZ16R8dsNe3SNUqZp_Vh7mLybyYf9wqTCEh0zjGLHdbw5Jlbg4mt0Q (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedcafe.com%2F%3Fp%3D446641&h=AT1FyfByylgrjYqK-fO-fC_xi8xWRBnIGlFwOUELmcWnisI0Xq39OI0d6V4dqqQnt52vAQf0ojNHFRNRoYMnGZ16R8dsNe3SNUqZp_Vh7mLybyYf9wqTCEh0zjGLHdbw5Jlbg4mt0Q)

Yep all good thanks Trev, but I've done a couple of captures in case it doesn't work for some... Source Speedcafe.




(https://i.ibb.co/c1JcYqT/Prac2-text.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qdBMJ61)

(https://i.ibb.co/pLczdWy/Prac2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P6KhgTQ)

Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 17, 2019, 10:29:59
One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

 :eek: :eek: :scared: :scared: :faint: :faint:

I believe the cars are all limited to 350hp, FWD and sedan/hatch, sorry no wagons!

list to the cars here:
 :link: TCR Cars - TCR Australia | Homologated Cars | TCR Series (https://www.tcraustralia.com/cars/)
See reply #31 above resolutions the Subaru.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 19, 2019, 02:04:19
Ok so what is the feedback on yesterday's first race.

Unfortunately it turned out to be a bit of a procession.

Will Brown was giving it a good go but not too many other exciting highlights during the bits I saw.

I disappeared to the loo for 10 minutes mid race and wasn't stressing that I was missing much. Came back and nothing had changed.

I know it is early days, but I hope today's races are more closely faught or I am quite a few others will lose interest.

I have a short attention span these days as a result of my PD. (no not my car)

Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 19, 2019, 03:43:49
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/171222_2018_wtcr_technical_regulations_draft_v01.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjIuaTuvY7iAhWLP48KHSh1B_EQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw1xoeJvOqs7phyA0S5r8aWV&cshid=1557406851370)

@CraigB This should link to the 2018 regs.
Thanks Tim, yeah the ECU's are sealed as you mentioned so no adjustments or piggyback setups there, any OEM intercooler can be used up to 8ltrs, looks like different turbos or impellers may be permitted (I'm not sure on that one :undecided: ) exhaust changes after the turbo are allowed with using regulated Catalytic and exhaust needs to be within the 110 dba at 6000rpm.

I contacted TCR and they said the regs are global so those 2018 regs i put up should be pretty dang close to what we will see.

One extra thing.
Subaru is involved.
Yet they are 4WD.

The Subaru's entered in TCR are using a 6-speed frontwheel drive gearbox with an inline 4 transverse mounted engine. Not very Subaru at all.
Also strange that the regulations state ctankshaft can be moved only 20mm from original orientation. They've turned the damn thing 90*
I'm skeptical, it may be written on the site as such , does not mean it's correct though. Every other would be transverse inline, easy for an author to assume or be trapped into thinking inline tranverse.
Does anybody know of an inline Subi motor? Even the Toyota shared  BRZ/GT86 is a boxer

The 1994cc sounds very EJ20.

If you look at WIKI which is always correct :lol: The International TCR mentions Subaru EJ20 H4

You would think it would be easy to find a press image of the layout bonnet up,  :faint:

This is 2015 but reportedly TCR , Top Run Motorsport Subaru in the build, looks very boxer.

(https://www.touringcars.net/file/2015/08/TopRunTCR.jpg)

Molly with her hood up

(https://rallysportmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/xSubaru-TCR-Blake-Nixon.jpg.pagespeed.ic.iB4-WVUQT2.webp)

Boxer for me, I can see the red inlet runners and the traditional Subie yellow oil cap right where it should be on a boxer and even spot the alternator smack bang in th ecentre top area

(https://rallysportmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/xMolly-action-TCR-Blake-Nixon.jpg.pagespeed.ic.UYYhPCv7W1.webp)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 19, 2019, 03:50:11
Ok so what is the feedback on yesterday's first race.

Unfortunately it turned out to be a bit of a procession.

Will Brown was giving it a good go but not too many other exciting highlights during the bits I saw.

I disappeared to the loo for 10 minutes mid race and wasn't stressing that I was missing much. Came back and nothing had changed.

I know it is early days, but I hope today's races are more closely faught or I am quite a few others will lose interest.

I have a short attention span these days as a result of my PD. (no not my car)
Unfortunately , boring, and at 16 laps too short. I was hoping it would be much closer and some rubbing.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 19, 2019, 04:05:53
Before I get smashed, inline 4 cyl, talking current of 2lt capacity , not interested in historic examples like 2 , 3 cyl or even the EN series  :sweating: :sweating:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 19, 2019, 04:21:07
Race on, start is looking lively, cars out of position , Brighty bogs in down on the start :scared:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 19, 2019, 04:32:41
Race on, start is looking lively, cars out of position , Brighty bogs in down on the start :scared:

A bit better so far (getting spread out a bit though)  :spitty:  Will Brown will become the poster boy for Aussie TCR if he keeps it straight.  :goodjob:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 19, 2019, 04:49:51
Race on, start is looking lively, cars out of position , Brighty bogs in down on the start :scared:

A bit better so far (getting spread out a bit though)  :spitty:  Will Brown will become the poster boy for Aussie TCR if he keeps it straight.  :goodjob:
Is the winner race #3 overall winner? 
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 19, 2019, 06:10:47
Well, I enjoyed all three races although today's were better.

My take on it is this.

17 (Well, 16 yesterday) cars. If you get a grid of 25 a la Supercars, it'll be fine.

Perhaps more importantly, I reckon if those 17 drivers were in the a field made up of the current crop of Supercars,  the gaps would have been even bigger..

I also don't understand why  tw2005 thinks 16 laps is too short.  Any longer would only promote bigger gaps surely.?

And I don't have a problem with the Subaru configuration.  It's obviously accepted by the powers that be and other teams. Anything which involves an extra manufacturer without upsetting the competitive balance  is fine by me.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 19, 2019, 07:12:46
Yes, definitely better today. The i30's did really well in the end!  :happydance: (The cream rises to the top)

Three i30N's out of the top 4 finishers in race 3. :victory:

For anyone who didn't watch (Spoiler alert)

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Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: tw2005 on May 19, 2019, 07:30:42
Well, I enjoyed all three races although today's were better.

My take on it is this.

17 (Well, 16 yesterday) cars. If you get a grid of 25 a la Supercars, it'll be fine.

Perhaps more importantly, I reckon if those 17 drivers were in the a field made up of the current crop of Supercars,  the gaps would have been even bigger..

I also don't understand why  tw2005 thinks 16 laps is too short.  Any longer would only promote bigger gaps surely.?

And I don't have a problem with the Subaru configuration.  It's obviously accepted by the powers that be and other teams. Anything which involves an extra manufacturer without upsetting the competitive balance  is fine by me.
I was just thinking a bit more tyre wear and opportunity for cars to come through depending on how well they were managed over the 3 races, just a thought. Slip in a safety car or 2 and and there's a chunk of racing gone pretty quickly.

I don't think there is a problem with Subaru, just the comments previous one saying 4wd, another saying  inline motor which is what the site says,  It's not as far as I can find out, 2ltr Turbo, FWD which is what this category  is meant to be  :question:
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: pug20g on May 22, 2019, 14:34:46
The TCR footage I've seen is  excellent.
My only concern is that, the British and European Touring car championships based on 2litre cars in the past were also excellent but didn't translate well to Australia.  The cars were the same but the racing suffered from poor numbers and a dearth of competitive cars.
Hopefully TCR will not go the same way.

 :agreed:, I hope there is enough interest to keep the series alive and growing. Can still remember the 2L days where they used to attack corners 3 abreast! Maybe the only way to keep a new racing series alive is to race SUVs as their popularity doesn't seem to have a bound?
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on May 22, 2019, 19:38:17
The TCR footage I've seen is  excellent.
My only concern is that, the British and European Touring car championships based on 2litre cars in the past were also excellent but didn't translate well to Australia.  The cars were the same but the racing suffered from poor numbers and a dearth of competitive cars.
Hopefully TCR will not go the same way.

 :agreed:, I hope there is enough interest to keep the series alive and growing. Can still remember the 2L days where they used to attack corners 3 abreast! Maybe the only way to keep a new racing series alive is to race SUVs as their popularity doesn't seem to have a bound?
They so that.
Think they're called Superutes.
It's terrible.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on May 23, 2019, 23:16:27
Agreed that races 2 and 3 were better .. They certainly look lively turning into corners with everything going through the front, as one would expect i suppose. It'll be good to see them find their feet and get a few more races under their belts to gauge crowd reactions and get more of a following too i think.

I'm planning to get to either the Round 2 at Phillip Island in June, or Round 6 at Sandown Raceway in September. Unfortunately I'm working the weekend of Round 5 at Winton Raceway.
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 24, 2019, 01:20:09
A field of 25 would make it better I reckon. Don't know if there are any more likely to enter in the near future?
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on May 24, 2019, 13:45:43
I've had a bit of a whip around and....

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/motorsport-five-more-for-tcr-grid-118646/ (https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/motorsport-five-more-for-tcr-grid-118646/)
Title: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 02, 2019, 22:09:19
Tander and a couple of new Audis... More cars and another experienced driver might help improve the spectacle.
 :link: Supercars star Tander to join TCR Australia grid - Speedcafe (https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/06/02/supercars-star-tander-to-join-tcr-australia-grid/)
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 08, 2019, 04:52:04
Race 1 Philip Island Starting shortly on SBS and also live streamed here...

 :link: LIVE STREAM: Shannons Nationals from Phillip Island - Speedcafe (https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/06/08/live-stream-shannons-nationals-from-phillip-island/)

Larger field includes Garth Tander and his wife Leanne apparently! :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 08, 2019, 06:16:19
Well that wasn't too bad. They should rename the trophy the "Will Brown" trophy, he seems to be the one creating the most excitement.   :victory:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 08, 2019, 10:02:59
One of the best races of any kind I've seen in ages.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 08, 2019, 10:25:29
One of the best races of any kind I've seen in ages.

Yes, not bad! I still liked it better before safety cars! Although, they do bunch up the field which helped with this race.  :crazy2:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 08, 2019, 12:08:38
One of the best races of any kind I've seen in ages.

Yes, not bad! I still liked it better before safety cars! Although, they do bunch up the field which helped with this race.  :crazy2:
I have to say safety cars are one of the few American exports I'm in favour  of.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 04:16:24
Never heard of Will Brown before but he's driving well in the i30N.

Here's his bio. Needs updating with TCR stuff.

 :link: Will Brown - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Brown_)(racing_driver)

Another great sporting Queenslander.
Like Ash Barty.  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on June 09, 2019, 04:52:30
Race 1 & 2 very lively!! Pity that Heimgartner is having a crappy weekend, he must have a target painted on his car!!
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2019, 04:56:10
I forgot about it until Trevor posted that comment. At least I saw the last 5 or 6 laps and obviously I'll now watch the 2nd race.

Thanks @Surferdude  :goodjob:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 05:38:45
Its all happening.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 05:54:23
1:2 Hyundai.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2019, 06:34:33
Yes, a great result. Shame about the early carnage though!  :crazy1:

They need to tidy up the coverage a bit. Lap numbers don't always correlate and I may be missing it, but they don't seem to show championship leaderboard? :undecided:

Will Brown might be leading by more than this now. I have a feeling this hasn't been updated after todays races.

Got it from here...

(https://i.ibb.co/1qr20w2/TCR-stats.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 06:45:29
Yeah. Heaps more. I think the third race of the weekend attracts double points.
Check back later.
The SBS camera operators have a bit to learn. Or else they simply have less camera locations.
Also, no helicopter for aerial relay from the cars, so some break up.
Some awesome racing though back in the pack.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2019, 06:48:40
There has certainly been enough happening to generate interest going forward I think.  :goodjob:

There is talk of it being a support category for V8 supercars hope we don't lose the free coverage if that happens.  :undecided:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 06:58:38
We probably will.  :crazy1:
Given the racing we've seen in two outings,  by the time you get 30 cars out there it'll be unstoppable.
The Renaults are a surprise given there's only 4 of them in the world.
And there are several more cars on their way atm.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2019, 07:07:41
Time will tell I guess. Look forward to a growing field. Great to see Hyundai leading the pack... Need some Toyotas..  :whistler: :evil:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 07:11:59
Time will tell I guess. Look forward to a growing field. Great to see Hyundai leading the pack... Need some Toyotas..  :whistler: :evil:
Not sure there's Toyotas even in Europe.. :whistler:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 07:13:44
Nup.

 :link: 2019 TCR Europe Touring Car Series - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_TCR_Europe_Touring_Car_Series)
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 08:41:50
Bit annoying I can't find a pointscore anywhere.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 09, 2019, 09:57:31
Bit annoying I can't find a pointscore anywhere.

Looks like it's been updated now.

 :link: TCR Australia Official Website | Homologated Cars | TCR Series (https://www.tcraustralia.com/)


(https://i.ibb.co/RjVWmvK/TCR.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Surferdude on June 09, 2019, 10:24:37
 :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on June 09, 2019, 23:34:05
Its all happening.

There was certainly great racing in there .. Brown coming in second after going off on the first corner of the first race was a good highlight, I think the low temperature in the tyres even after the warm-up lap will definitely keep things interesting for the drivers and the viewers!

They need to tidy up the coverage a bit. Lap numbers don't always correlate and I may be missing it,

Yeh some of the camera work/camera changes were a bit loose, however it was better than Round 1 of the coverage. The lap numbers may not correlate due to timed 30 minute racing.. so for example, i think it was Race 1, when they had a couple of Safety Car periods they announced "Final Lap" on Lap 14 of 16 as they'd reached the 30 minute mark.

Some awesome racing though back in the pack.

Garth Tander was certainly in the thick of a lot of it, I enjoyed his enthusiasm though and he had that massive slide in the final race which looked great! Felt sorry for the birthday boy Heimgartner though, poor bugger!

There is talk of it being a support category for V8 supercars hope we don't lose the free coverage if that happens. 

Funny you should mention that .. I was scrolling through the Foxtel guide on my phone just this morning and they are showing Round 1 from Sydney at 11am today! Even if we lose the FTA SBS-HD coverage [which i hope we don't], hopefully they still do the live streaming.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 10, 2019, 00:01:51
Hopefully Adz,

Although if they limit the TV they might make the streaming paid.... fingers crossed they don't though.  :cool:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 14, 2019, 21:52:48
Interesting  :D

 :link: MAZDA TO JOIN TCR BOOM - Auto Action (https://autoaction.com.au/2019/06/14/mazda-to-join-tcr-boom)
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on June 15, 2019, 03:32:43
Interesting  :D

 :link: MAZDA TO JOIN TCR BOOM - Auto Action (https://autoaction.com.au/2019/06/14/mazda-to-join-tcr-boom)
:cool: :goodjob:

I can’t see Mazda using someone else’s engine :undecided: they already have a 2ltr, just needs a turbo on it.

Might inspire Mazda to release a factory turbo model once again :fingers:
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 15, 2019, 06:47:12
Interesting  :D

 :link: MAZDA TO JOIN TCR BOOM - Auto Action (https://autoaction.com.au/2019/06/14/mazda-to-join-tcr-boom)
:cool: :goodjob:

I can’t see Mazda using someone else’s engine :undecided: they already have a 2ltr, just needs a turbo on it.

Might inspire Mazda to release a factory turbo model once again :fingers:

They have a turbo in the CX9 and some other model already...
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on June 16, 2019, 06:45:48
They have a turbo in the CX9 and some other model already...
Yes but they’re bigger engines not suitable for TCR, Mazda need a new hot hatch like they used to have.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: Dazzler on June 16, 2019, 06:56:41
They have a turbo in the CX9 and some other model already...
Yes but they’re bigger engines not suitable for TCR, Mazda need a new hot hatch like they used to have.

I think I heard a rumour that they are working on one...
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: CraigB on June 16, 2019, 07:42:34
They have a turbo in the CX9 and some other model already...
Yes but they’re bigger engines not suitable for TCR, Mazda need a new hot hatch like they used to have.

I think I heard a rumour that they are working on one...
I'd heard that Mazda Australia have made their wishes known to Japanese headquarters over the years hoping for a new hot hatch, with any luck those requests might come into fruition with the latest hot hatch craze and a little push with TCR :fingers:
 :link: Mazda 3 turbo hot hatch percolating | CarAdvice (https://www.caradvice.com.au/755665/mazda-3-turbo-hot-hatch-percolating/)
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on June 17, 2019, 09:50:08
Every single time a new model comes out the usual car media outlets jump on the whole "turbo mazda 3" bandwagon .. Hopefully this time it's accurate. They have finally shoe-horned the 2.5lt turbo from the CX-9 into the revised Mazda6 and the CX-5. I realise that TCR is 2lt, so who knows what they have up their sleeves.
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on August 04, 2019, 00:12:33
Coverage for today has already begun even though the other TCR racing doesn't begin until 1300hrs..

  :link: Speedcafe Streaming. (https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/03/live-stream-shannons-nationals-from-qr/)

Adz
Title: Re: TCR will be Broadcast Live on SBS in Australia & Streamed on Speedcafe
Post by: mrpayner on September 22, 2019, 03:14:19
It’s certainly a great day for it.. I’ll post the dSLR shots later.

(https://i.ibb.co/sJD1t8f/BD8-A4301-0-B77-4817-8-B6-D-816-EF6586-E54.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6rDMN7)
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