problem with tyre sensor valve shearing off

mikeharry2006 · **February 28, 2018, 11:42:45**

Beware anyone with a rigid allamium tyre valve with tyre monitoring system.
My car is brand new not even 4 weeks old hyundai ioniq hybred premium.
Went to blow tyre up a siansburies petrol station. Tyre valve sheared off resulting in instant flat tyre
Contacted local hyundai dealer in Scarborough not coverd under warranty because I didn't put air line on straight.was told by service manager that hyundai are aware valves shear of.
I said was never warned about this problem.
Did some research online happened to few people with these valves. Also valve can corrode over time and snap.
Rang hyundai to complain was told only can be replaced under warranty if deemed faulty by dealership.said I wasn't warned about this and hyundai should come up with as these valve s over 100 pounds plus fitting.
The valves are to rigid not long enough .not enough clearance to use a standard airline at petrol station.
hyundai always harping on about how good there warranty is .Why not come up with fix. Hold hands say valves to brittle cover against accidental damage.
This is 20000 pound car shame about tyre valves.
When you research online hundreds complaints reguarding hyudia warranty.
Not good enough for 4 biggest car builder.
Anyone had this complain by letter to hyundai to get it altered.

tw2005 · **Reply #1: February 28, 2018, 11:57:00**

Yeah, one of those moments where you'd like to say I've been driving and inflating my own tyres for decades with no issue. Not suitable for the purpose.
Not knowing anything about these but if they are that delicate that they snap with routine service, how will they go with heat and age and what about debris when driven?

Sometimes the old keep it simple stupid applies.

eye30 · **Reply #2: February 28, 2018, 16:52:11**

How do they know air line not on straight?

Unless you told them it must be their best guess then i presume it is a known issue.

So how and or what are you to use to inflate tyres if you can not use garage airlines?

Dazzler · **Reply #3: February 28, 2018, 18:09:19**

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for the warning. I better be gentle. Assume mine is the same on current model PD SR.

In Hyundai's defense I am guessing these valves are probably identical in quality and possibly from the same supplier as numerous other brands.

AlanHo · **Reply #4: February 28, 2018, 20:52:16**

I can recall several posts on this forum some time ago for the same problem with broken and corroded TMP stems . I have a Michelin tyre air compressor which plugs into the cigar lighter socket. The hose end is a brass straight screwed connector which is easy to fit and does not put any sideways load on the valve stem.

I never use garage pumps - the end fittings are too bulky and the accuracy of their pressure gauge is anyone's guess. I was once filling my car and a guy opposite was blowing up his tyres. He walked round the car, tripped over the hose and broke the valve off. Hence I am very careful when checking/blowing up my tyres.

Hati · **Reply #5: February 28, 2018, 21:14:48**

Just go to a different dealer...

Surferdude · **Reply #6: February 28, 2018, 21:41:54**

Quote from: Dazzler on February 28, 2018, 18:09:19

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for the warning. I better be gentle. Assume mine is the same on current model PD SR.

In Hyundai's defense I am guessing these valves are probably identical in quality and possibly from the same supplier as numerous other brands.

Which doesn't in any way reduce their responsibility to utilise a quality product which is fit for purpose.
It's not rocket science. Remember the chrome, bolt on valves used in alloy wheels. You couldn't break them off with a hammer. And no corrosion issues even on beach vehicles.

mickd · **Reply #7: February 28, 2018, 23:48:14**

Stupid set up. Only way to check tyre pressure is to go to a dealer, their fault if it breaks ?

marti30 · **Reply #8: March 10, 2018, 15:38:41**

Are these valve stems part of the TPMS and retained when tyres are changed and do they require special dust caps?

Dazzler · **Reply #9: March 10, 2018, 17:09:54**

Quote from: marti30 on March 10, 2018, 15:38:41

Are these valve stems part of the TPMS and retained when tyres are changed and do they require special dust caps?

Yes, yes and no. Yes to your first two questions, but no to your third from what I can see. the valve caps look normal tp me.

nzenigma · **Reply #10: March 10, 2018, 21:11:49**

Quote from: tw2005 on February 28, 2018, 11:57:00

inflating my own tyres for decades with no issue. Not suitable for the purpose.

That has to be the argument with Hyundai.
Furthermore, if they are that delicate they will probably snap off when you drive through snow, mud or deep puddles?

Be disastrous in Tazzie

Dazzler · **Reply #11: March 11, 2018, 03:53:09**

Quote from: nzenigma on March 10, 2018, 21:11:49

Quote from: tw2005 on February 28, 2018, 11:57:00
inflating my own tyres for decades with no issue. Not suitable for the purpose.

That has to be the argument with Hyundai.
Furthermore, if they are that delicate they will probably snap off when you drive through snow, mud or deep puddles?

Be disastrous in Tazzie

Your getting mixed up with NZ! Only driven on snow about 3 times in 40 years.Same for muddy roads..

...and generally our roads are pretty good.

nzenigma · **Reply #12: March 11, 2018, 06:00:10**

40 years before climate change

Dazzler · **Reply #13: March 11, 2018, 10:14:23**

Quote from: nzenigma on March 11, 2018, 06:00:10

40 years before climate change

Funny you should say that because our ckplimate has changed quite a bit down here in the last 5 years. Longer, warmer summers. Much bigger rain events.. etc.

nzenigma · **Reply #14: March 11, 2018, 20:30:21**

Quote from: Dazzler on March 11, 2018, 10:14:23

Quote from: nzenigma on March 11, 2018, 06:00:10
40 years before climate change

Funny you should say that because our ckplimate has changed quite a bit down here in the last 5 years. Longer, warmer summers. Much bigger rain events.. etc.

Similar up here, certainly hotter summer days. We have had weeks of rain, still on going, but I remember long wet seasons when I came here in the 1970s.

NZ is probably similar to Tazzie. BIGGER storms. drought in the usually wet windy Wellington, and then snow in the city.

marti30 · **Reply #15: March 12, 2018, 16:46:41**

Thanks for answering my questions referring to dust caps and replacement of valves.
My new PD is my first car with TPMS.
Up to now whenever a tyre has been fitted (even after a puncture repair) the valve has been replaced.
I've also read of some dust caps causing problems by adhering to certain valve stems.
In some respects the TPMS is quite useful. When I drove my car away from the dealer the pressures were shown as being high (even for me) and unequal. In due course I adjusted them all down (much easier than inflating them) to 38 psi using my own pressure gauge. Remarkably the TPMS display matched my gauge. Now I use the TPMS display instead of checking pressures manually. I'm happy enough all the time all four tyres are a similar pressure in the high 30s psi.

Dazzler · **Reply #16: March 12, 2018, 19:57:25**

I quite like the TPMS. Had 32+ cars and this is my first with TPMS. Not as common in Australia in affordable cars as in Europe.

I find it very accurate compared to a manual gauge too.

I run 34 psi all around (cold) goes to around 36 after a bit of driving. I makes quite a reduction in tyre noise on our coarse bitumen roads compared to say 38 psi

Ammo · **Reply #17: May 13, 2018, 15:00:12**

Hi, my TPMS valve broke off in 2012 (2009 car),did a bit of googling, found it is a very common problem. Went back to dealership, salesman asked me how can i help,as they do. So I explained, had only bought the car 2 weeks earlier at 3years old, first time i blew up tyres problem with valve. did not even have to explain prob. i simply asked him you know what the problem with tpms valves are, and yes he replied correctly that they break off, so he knew as well that it is a KNOWN PROBLEM, which i later pointed out I had done my homework on internet and this site. Also gently pointed out that if a stone was to hit on motorway etc the rapid deflation would have caused what is in effect a blowout, so serious safety issue. A new valve was ordered and fitted free. I also pointed out on the 2nd visit that oneof the other valves was also corroded but not yet broken ,so another valve ordered and fitted free. tried to get a 3rd valve replaced as corrosion on that one as well, but not enough to warrant replacement by them.

nzenigma · **Reply #18: May 13, 2018, 21:42:28**

Quote from: Ammo on May 13, 2018, 15:00:12

it is a KNOWN PROBLEM, which i later pointed out I had done my homework on internet and this site.

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beerman · **Reply #19: May 14, 2018, 22:37:16**

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Shambles · **Reply #20: May 14, 2018, 23:15:48**

It's a good thread, but such a pity that mikeharry2006 hasn't visited since he/she created it

nzenigma · **Reply #21: May 15, 2018, 05:00:02**

Quote from: beerman on May 14, 2018, 22:37:16

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Dazzler · **Reply #22: May 15, 2018, 08:05:12**

Quote from: nzenigma on May 15, 2018, 05:00:02

Quote from: beerman on May 14, 2018, 22:37:16
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nzenigma · **Reply #23: May 16, 2018, 07:13:53**

Quote from: Dazzler on May 15, 2018, 08:05:12

Quote from: nzenigma on May 15, 2018, 05:00:02
Quote from: beerman on May 14, 2018, 22:37:16
What about fake porn?

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Dazzler · **Reply #24: May 16, 2018, 09:57:47**