[Dazzler]

Sort of a 2017 i30 Hybrid.. could be my next car if the price is right with the right combo of features.

https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/reviews/2016/Green/Hyundai/Ioniq/hyundai-ioniq-hybrid-2016-review-103054

[Shambles]

Hmm... not a fan of the style, but it could grow on me.


PS, the steering wheel's a bit busy innit

[Dazzler]

I think the next i30 will look very similar to this. Brilliant drag coefficient of .24

Kind of looks like my brother's 2015 Prius but nicer. The newest Prius is hideous.

The new wheel is a bit like mine with a few more buttons. 

[Phil №❶]

Same problem as the Veloster, not much rear headroom  Won't sell, IMO.

[Dazzler]

Same problem as the Veloster, not much rear headroom  Won't sell, IMO.

I think you might be surprised (they will sell at least 1 in Tassie...) 

[Phil №❶]

I thought that was conditional 

[Dazzler]

I thought that was conditional 

Fair call.. 

[beerman]

Wait, it looks like a real car......

If they undercut the Prius (and hyundai is known for that) with the extra warranty etc they will do well in the Taxi market at least. Especally if the rear leg room and luggage space is better.

35k is a bit rich for me.... Though 35k Hyundai  list is high 20's in real life....If they hit that they will dominate the Taxi market.

[rustynutz]

Hyundai IONIQ Hybrid | Eco Cars | Hyundai Worldwide

[AlanHo]

Dazz

I road tested the KIA Niro yesterday which has the same drive train and underpinnings as the Ioniq. I can endorse what that reviewer says about the drive train and how refined the car is.  I can also endorse the strange feel of the brakes - there is no initial bite to them and you find yourself pushing harder on the pedal than necessary. I'm sure it's something you would soon get used to though.

One thing I did not particularly like is the lack of a handbrake - it has a foot operated parking brake which appeals to the USA market.

The aspect you will need to think about is whether you would be better choosing a car - like the Niro - with a higher seating position. The Ioniq is out of the question for Libby and I - it is too low - and we would struggle to get in and out.  Nowadays function trumps style for us.

[Doggie 1]

I remember the Austin Allegro having a strange steering wheel in the seventies.
Sort of oblong with corners if I recall correctly, so people with big guts (men and women) could fit in more comfortably.
It didn't prove popular.

[Dazzler]

Dazz

I road tested the KIA Niro yesterday which has the same drive train and underpinnings as the Ioniq. I can endorse what that reviewer says about the drive train and how refined the car is.  I can also endorse the strange feel of the brakes - there is no initial bite to them and you find yourself pushing harder on the pedal than necessary. I'm sure it's something you would soon get used to though.

One thing I did not particularly like is the lack of a handbrake - it has a foot operated parking brake which appeals to the USA market.

The aspect you will need to think about is whether you would be better choosing a car - like the Niro - with a higher seating position. The Ioniq is out of the question for Libby and I - it is too low - and we would struggle to get in and out.  Nowadays function trumps style for us.

Thanks for the feedback Alan. I don't mind the foot brake (my last Hybrid Camry had it.)

I am also familiar with the feel of regenerative brakes (both my Hybrids had a relatively dead brake pedal feel - but as you say, you do get used to it.)

I much prefer the style of the Ioniq (virtually an Elantra Hybrid) but yes, the Niro is more practical for me.

If it comes to Australia in the next 12 months or so, it could very easy be on my short list with a Quasqui Diesel and the Honda HRV (we could be get the turbo 1.5 model in Oz)

Cheers, 

[eye30]

I remember the Austin Allegro having a strange steering wheel in the seventies.
Sort of oblong with corners if I recall correctly, so people with big guts (men and women) could fit in more comfortably.
It didn't prove popular.

And hydroelastic suspension

[AlanHo]

I believe the hydrolastic suspension was used on the Austin 1100 etc

The Allegro used the hydrogas system - which worked well but had a poor reliability record.

[eye30]

I believe the hydrolastic suspension was used on the Austin 1100 etc

The Allegro used the hydrogas system - which worked well but had a poor reliability record.

Correct.

Thinking back to the mid 80's i had a metro which had same set up as the allegro so yes hydragas it was,

The oracle  is spot on again...

Fouud this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrolastic

[Doggie 1]

I believe the hydrolastic suspension was used on the Austin 1100 etc

The Allegro used the hydrogas system - which worked well but had a poor reliability record.

Correct.
My old Austin 1800 Mk 11 had hydrolastic suspension.