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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => ELECTRICAL | ELECTRONIC | AUDIO => Topic started by: nogun on April 11, 2019, 08:48:44

Title: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 11, 2019, 08:48:44
Hi all

I'm a newbie here, just got my active and am quite impressed with how featured it is for the base model. The only thing that has irked me so far is the colour difference between the daytime LED strip and the nighttime driving lights. I installed high temperature H7 halogens but they just don't cut it.

After reading through a few pages here and on other sites it seem that LED lights need a power adapter (i am guessing the 55W socket just won't do) and the space is very limited. Some people mentioned that the dust cap needs to be cut.

Just wondering if anyone has had experience with swapping these out? Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 11, 2019, 09:19:58
I was planning on eventually doing mine with the JTX bulbs though the current police blitz here on vehicles with non factory headlights have given me second thoughts.

No power adaptor is necessary with these bulb as they use 50W though depending on how your bulbs are secured (lock spring or power plug) you might still require an adaptor to secure the bulb if its locked in with the power plug.

 :link: 1 pr H7 JTX LED Globes Bulbs 12v 24v 6000 Lumen 50w | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-JTX-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-6000-Lumen-50w/112514934270?hash=item1a3269a5fe:g:PSkAAOSwNJ5ZiPJh&frcectupt=true)

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on April 11, 2019, 12:43:52
I was planning on eventually doing mine with the JTX bulbs though the current police blitz here on vehicles with non factory headlights have given me second thoughts.
Not heard about this WA crackdown mate, my LED indicators are certainly attention grabbing  :sweating:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 11, 2019, 13:12:46
I was planning on eventually doing mine with the JTX bulbs though the current police blitz here on vehicles with non factory headlights have given me second thoughts.
Not heard about this WA crackdown mate, my LED indicators are certainly attention grabbing  :sweating:
You'll be right, they're only concentrating on the low beam head lights :goodjob2:

With the better made bulbs like Philips - JTX etc, that aren't excessively bright and are correctly focused using the right bulb type for identical beam pattern you would probably never have a problem on a car that's modern enough (even though still illegal), older cars are easily picked as well as to bright and poorly focused.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Hati on April 11, 2019, 21:24:17
After reading through a few pages here and on other sites it seem that LED lights need a power adapter (i am guessing the 55W socket just won't do) and the space is very limited.

Not quite. LED lights in general use way less electricity than halogens, in the order of 15 tp 30% of the halogen consumption. The issue is that most LED headlight globes have a larger body to them that incorporates a cooling fan. This is what doesn't fit in lieu of the halogen H7. It will fit into the headlight, but the dust cap cannot be used with it so you could potentially open your headlight insides to contamination. If I was to go LED on my PD, I would find a way to seal the reflectors back up.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 11, 2019, 22:10:23
After reading through a few pages here and on other sites it seem that LED lights need a power adapter (i am guessing the 55W socket just won't do) and the space is very limited.

Not quite. LED lights in general use way less electricity than halogens, in the order of 15 tp 30% of the halogen consumption. The issue is that most LED headlight globes have a larger body to them that incorporates a cooling fan. This is what doesn't fit in lieu of the halogen H7. It will fit into the headlight, but the dust cap cannot be used with it so you could potentially open your headlight insides to contamination. If I was to go LED on my PD, I would find a way to seal the reflectors back up.
Generally LED’s still require a canbus/no error inline adaptor so the same current is then converted for the LEDs without setting off warning systems.

The JTX bulbs don’t require the canbus conversion adaptors since they still use 50W and the vehicle will see them as normal bulbs making the easier for plug and play, another benefit of this design is the use of a heat sink rather than fan driven, fan driven bulbs are more unreliable and require much more space behind the fan for cooling efficiency.

If space allows you would need to purchase rubber domed dust caps of a suitable size to attach to your standard dust caps which will then accommodate the extra length of the heat sink.

Socket adapters may still be required for the LEDs to mount into the factory socket if you happen to have bulbs that secure with the power plug.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on April 11, 2019, 22:49:32
I'm still quite keen to do this in my SR. I thought someone had advertised an LED option with a heat sink that would fit in the PD headlights without additional mods?  :undecided:

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: The Gonz on April 12, 2019, 01:00:41
As an electronics engineer, I find the whole 'CANBUS no error' feature pretty crude. The car's logic system uses the reduced current seen when a globe blows (open circuit) as a convenient way to inform of a problem. Some makers pass off the flasher race effect (where your indicators seem to suffer double-speed palpitations) as a clever safety feature when it is simply the effect it has on the time constant of the oscillator circuit when exposed to the reduced current draw.

What's so unimpressive about this is that LEDs don't tend to blow, so such a feature becomes a poor design excuse. The lower current draw of LEDs is where you reduce your wattage and save energy, but the way CANBUS compatibility is too often done is by shunting the LED with a big fat resistor to draw enough current in parallel to match what the old globe would have, then burn it off as heat - not my idea of a step up at all!

When I exchanged my amber incandescent front turn signal globes for LED DRL combos, I cut the chunky 6R 5W resistors off and invested in a neat $2 electronic adjustable flasher unit to swap for the OEM one under the steering column. Being electronic rather than electromechanical, its time constant is independent of current draw (uses a 555 timer IC) and now I'm truly saving energy.

Moral of the story: don't expect a CANBUS compatible design to save you energy, and be prepared for a new source of heat!
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 12, 2019, 04:05:25
Thanks for all your replies guys, quite informative. I was hoping for a simple plug and play, but i guess the dust caps are the biggest concern. As pointed out, i think i should measure one in diameter and find something similar, i guess figuring out the depth of the bulb itself would be the difficult part without buying it.

I shall look into the JTX bulbs, maybe order some online and look at how easily they will fit into the clips and the distance they stick out.

I shall let you know how I go once i receive the bulbs.

I would have thought LED conversions would have been more common for this car than it is. I guess most people are happy with their lights... damn my OCD.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 12, 2019, 07:24:23
I'm still quite keen to do this in my SR. I thought someone had advertised an LED option with a heat sink that would fit in the PD headlights without additional mods?  :undecided:
JTX advertise that the dust caps will go back on with most of their installations though on my GD the caps are so close that rubber boots would be required.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 12, 2019, 08:49:32
I looked into the JTX lights, seems they are quite long 88.38 x 50 (widest) from the ebay you linked.

has anyone considered these? they are 76 x 40. seems like they should fit with no dust cap issues? I really should go measure this out on the car.

 :link: PHILIPS H7 LED Ultinon 6200K +160% White Car Headlight Bulbs Kit 12V With CANbus 8727900398618 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-H7-LED-Ultinon-6200K-160-White-Car-Headlight-Bulbs-Kit-12V-With-CANbus/323475054766?epid=7019436349&hash=item4b509da0ae:g:wuEAAOSw9sFbVeV5&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 12, 2019, 09:27:47
I looked into the JTX lights, seems they are quite long 88.38 x 50 (widest) from the ebay you linked.

has anyone considered these? they are 76 x 40. seems like they should fit with no dust cap issues? I really should go measure this out on the car.

 :link: PHILIPS H7 LED Ultinon 6200K +160% White Car Headlight Bulbs Kit 12V With CANbus 8727900398618 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-H7-LED-Ultinon-6200K-160-White-Car-Headlight-Bulbs-Kit-12V-With-CANbus/323475054766?epid=7019436349&hash=item4b509da0ae:g:wuEAAOSw9sFbVeV5&vxp=mtr)
They are completely the wrong type to suit if replacing H7 bulbs, there is no capped end to give the correct cut off.

They must use the same or similar ends like the JTX or these Philips bulbs for the correct beam pattern (the below linked Philips are a high/low type bulb)  :link: 1 pr H7 Philips Ultinon LED Globes Bulbs 12v & 24v +160% Brighter | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-Philips-Ultinon-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-160-Brighter/292785208863?hash=item442b5bbe1f:g:ccMAAOSwlMRa4-bv)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 12, 2019, 09:29:28
I looked into the JTX lights, seems they are quite long 88.38 x 50 (widest) from the ebay you linked.

has anyone considered these? they are 76 x 40. seems like they should fit with no dust cap issues? I really should go measure this out on the car.

 :link: PHILIPS H7 LED Ultinon 6200K +160% White Car Headlight Bulbs Kit 12V With CANbus 8727900398618 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-H7-LED-Ultinon-6200K-160-White-Car-Headlight-Bulbs-Kit-12V-With-CANbus/323475054766?epid=7019436349&hash=item4b509da0ae:g:wuEAAOSw9sFbVeV5&vxp=mtr)
They are completely the wrong type to suit if replacing H7 bulbs, there is no capped end to give the correct cut off.

They must use the same or similar ends like the JTX or these Philips bulbs for the correct beam pattern (the below linked Philips are a high/low type bulb)  :link: 1 pr H7 Philips Ultinon LED Globes Bulbs 12v & 24v +160% Brighter | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-Philips-Ultinon-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-160-Brighter/292785208863?hash=item442b5bbe1f:g:ccMAAOSwlMRa4-bv)

Ah, i see what you mean. Well, 225 AUD for a set of lights. I mean, sure if they last 10 years. Might try the JTX then. Cheers :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 12, 2019, 09:40:01
Or from the same store you linked are these Philips H7  :link: Philips H7 LED X-treme Ultinon gen2 6500K +250% Car Headlight Bulbs 11972XUWX2 8719018060143 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-H7-LED-X-treme-Ultinon-gen2-6500K-250-Car-Headlight-Bulbs-11972XUWX2/323696566610?epid=11027291488&hash=item4b5dd1a152:g:wJoAAOSwPaBcgH5u)

Though these type use the correct single beam and correct end cap they still use the inline canbus adaptors and are even brighter which could be a concern.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on April 12, 2019, 11:03:11
I'd want to be sure I was keeping my car for a while if I go with those...  :cool:

Thanks for the links guys.. interesting.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 18, 2019, 01:11:36
So i got the JTX LEDs, tested them to try install them and the issue i ran into is that the LED holder does not clip into the bulb holder. See attached image.

The power socket is the actual holder to the light fixture, is there a work around to this other than trying to wedge it in because im sure the angle would be quite off.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 18, 2019, 04:05:23
So i got the JTX LEDs, tested them to try install them and the issue i ran into is that the LED holder does not clip into the bulb holder. See attached image.

The power socket is the actual holder to the light fixture, is there a work around to this other than trying to wedge it in because im sure the angle would be quite off.
I hope those pictures aren’t the bulbs you bought as they’re not JTX lights.

As mentioned many times Adapters are required for the low beam headlights  :link: H7 Headlight Bulb LED Sockets Adapters Base For Hyundai Coupe Sonata K3/4/5 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-Headlight-Bulb-LED-Sockets-Adapters-Base-For-Hyundai-Coupe-Sonata-K3-4-5/382278669811?hash=item59019595f3:g:TagAAOSwoR9aAVZm)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 18, 2019, 05:33:32
Thanks for the adaptor i also got the rubber extenders....

this is what i bought  :link: 1 pr H7 JTX LED Globes Bulbs 12v 24v 6000 Lumen 50w | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-JTX-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-6000-Lumen-50w/112514934270?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649)

and going by the photo, i was so excited to try them i didnt even realise they look so different. You're right, time to raise a refund :(
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on April 18, 2019, 06:58:38
After all this hopefully the collar or base on the JTX lights are removable so that the adapters are able to be fitted :fingers:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: The Gonz on April 18, 2019, 11:29:39
I adapted my new turn indicator / DRL combo modules using rubber grommets and precision bent coat hanger wire, so anything's possible. :victory: :lol:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on April 18, 2019, 15:08:07
Ingenuity at its greatest. Once they agree to send me the lights i wanted i shall have some hangers at hand.

After this i do want to change out the tail lights to the LED ones, might have to pay the wreckers a visit.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on April 18, 2019, 21:08:30
Ingenuity at its greatest. Once they agree to send me the lights i wanted i shall have some hangers at hand.

After this i do want to change out the tail lights to the LED ones, might have to pay the wreckers a visit.

Yeah, they are so much nicer than the  standard tail lights and if you can source them from a wreckers, so much more affordable than the arm, leg and 1st born child the dealers want...
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on May 04, 2019, 05:11:32
So just a general update for anyone interested...

The supplier of the JTX lights on ebay said that the big bulbed lights are the only LED H7 they have which is quite misleading from the photos.

In addition, the 70mm rubber dust covers slip straight into the headlight, they seem to be a little small diameter wise so i have purchased 75mm and will update the post once i confirm they work.

This has been a good learning curve i guess.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 04, 2019, 06:48:24
That’s false advertising :disapp: personally I return them for a refund as those bulbs are not fit for purpose and report their deceptive tactics to eBay.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Mikkantoo on May 04, 2019, 09:32:33
That’s false advertising :disapp: personally I return them for a refund as those bulbs are not fit for purpose and report their deceptive tactics to eBay.
This. eBay love protecting buyers so don't settle for anything less than a return/refund.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on May 05, 2019, 12:29:43
Yep raised a refund, that means my only option is the Philips $240 slim line ones :(

Well actually, I just noticed it is the same seller on all 3. I am guessing he has had a fun time lying to people.


 :link: 1 pr H7 Philips Ultinon LED Globes Bulbs 12v 24v +160% Brighter JTX - X | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-Philips-Ultinon-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-160-Brighter-JTX-X/302719897916?hash=item467b83113c:g:ccMAAOSwlMRa4-bv&frcectupt=true)
 :link: 1 pr H7 JTX LED Globes Bulbs 12v 24v 6000 Lumen 50w | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-JTX-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-6000-Lumen-50w/112514934270?hash=item1a3269a5fe:g:PSkAAOSwNJ5ZiPJh&frcectupt=true)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 05, 2019, 12:39:25
Yep raised a refund, that means my only option is the Philips $240 slim line ones :(

Well actually, I just noticed it is the same seller on all 3. I am guessing he has had a fun time lying to people.


 :link: 1 pr H7 Philips Ultinon LED Globes Bulbs 12v 24v +160% Brighter JTX - X | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-Philips-Ultinon-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-160-Brighter-JTX-X/302719897916?hash=item467b83113c:g:ccMAAOSwlMRa4-bv&frcectupt=true)
 :link: 1 pr H7 JTX LED Globes Bulbs 12v 24v 6000 Lumen 50w | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1-pr-H7-JTX-LED-Globes-Bulbs-12v-24v-6000-Lumen-50w/112514934270?hash=item1a3269a5fe:g:PSkAAOSwNJ5ZiPJh&frcectupt=true)
Don't bother with those Philips ones either, they're a "High/Low" type as I mentioned earlier.

The type required with Philips are like these single beams  :link: Philips H7 LED X-treme Ultinon gen2 6500K +250% Car Headlight Bulbs 11972XUWX2 8719018060143 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-H7-LED-X-treme-Ultinon-gen2-6500K-250-Car-Headlight-Bulbs-11972XUWX2/323696566610?epid=11027291488&hash=item4b5dd1a152:g:wJoAAOSwPaBcgH5u) I'm not sure if I would be comfortable buying from Russia though :undecided:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 05, 2019, 12:47:59
Here ya go  :link: Philips X-tremeUltinon gen2 LED X-treme Ultinon Car Headlight Globes H7 (Twin) 8719018060143 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Philips-X-tremeUltinon-gen2-LED-X-treme-Ultinon-Car-Headlight-Globes-H7-Twin/273620594270?epid=6027295983&hash=item3fb50eee5e:g:C8MAAOSw9m5cHMCY) and you'll require Canbus adaptors as well  :link: Genuine Philips LED Headlight CANbus Adapter Adaptor H7 Canceler Decoder 8719018050649 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-Philips-LED-Headlight-CANbus-Adapter-Adaptor-H7-Canceler-Decoder/323733485066?epid=9018622183&hash=item4b6004f60a:g:rtkAAOSwGMFch8Ej)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 05, 2019, 12:52:03
There is also the new Philips Lumileds  :link: Pair Philips H7 12000LM LED Headlight KIT White Beam Replace Xenon Halogen Globe 501560109092 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pair-Philips-H7-12000LM-LED-Headlight-KIT-White-Beam-Replace-Xenon-Halogen-Globe/392132442098?epid=14028935367&hash=item5b4cea37f2&enc=AQADAAAC8FjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVkEfxrvp7daMtuvirbg1CPMkx0bNjgU8nD8yLPvk5GmPRi3E3%2F3%2BBhofBY3DFTxaqxGxirn8fnTjxLwx%2BQ4vZhc6H1TsccQob1qCF9wOnnqubmMxyvYB1lro8v%2ButUfWGBEq12jxilsn%2FZx%2BNvNK2U9OmBn811CtvqAMe2N7CZSpCaRTMliJa5pbNKsGTWdfnNHw%2F7fB%2Fy9GMiFUbTr0jUJVRab6kMkIBMbvqxlFW7dPbchu8iZsAcQqvGkscMI6MvXUgFdLYEL0lbfm11mnyT%2BaLNGMXvQqhA1fXUcJoIqdZ5wilfRwaeyVJSgoycp5TDXv4ExpyiuGE5pXtCsuc60Jrv7Wtx3Hy9jdiHwd5GFPHKkTx8RdAkMbFLpZQggbga03ghhdGGPzzsy89GCs9iy90JSFko9cFp742JP3c4NBko9XCYZyeNlTQOS15uMuh5g%2BPf%2B1f9KS5nT6tVlLutj1ytIQQ16RzbkRJGgMpdWidztO4PA7HSf0O%2Bf9NGaENp6LkHZuaatBSFUhjnPN%2FtOssHZn1718BK%2F99q1br4EaB%2F9J1DRulUiWLcrsEKgwo9al3OMa%2BZhHOPkquUuoxGVrHo9e9t7n4yWgzwBd3WhtG4JJgsqSS%2BRE52kEG8KSfYG135qqQOwG0sPAf%2BHdngHLvxfJWK9d77oZCl7oy402c4y6DlUHslH0vJ6xnl6mvZfkokXNXg67ttDnSn1B%2Bg8Q6UQ9a8BILTCgMWW3Mv50guhLr9smw%2BOcAcI%2BoUpPI6LvxbUe0wuL%2FG%2B3FSjL8v341Pnd6xiQ%2BZQC%2Bztsat0unh95Qg2spPgg6DE%2BYxqCZVQKz4kYvlyg544I465X2eFxnS%2F%2B8IR8yVsojAcGBH%2F%2FQ67mHjH7WgOVqpGx92NK%2FyznMV6VCy10OMNt8VNzPgI9Xq1a36cXAVapUMa%2BQ7ytlAD5vgo29rm9pWegPzCch&checksum=39213244209845e0cdf5f6e94cc795ceafdab1c8209b&frcectupt=true) though they are 6000Lm per bulb which is extremely bright, they also require the Canbus adaptors I linked in the previous post.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 08, 2019, 14:01:02
Another kit I just found by Narva in a suitable design  :link: Narva | H7 12/24V LED CONVERSION KIT (https://www.narva.com.au/products/18008)

Currently on sale at SCA  :link: Narva LED Headlight Kit - H7 | Supercheap Auto (https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/narva-narva-led-headlight-kit---h7/546704.html) and still cheaper though Rolan's eBay store  :link: Narva H7 12/24 Volt LED Conversion Kit (18008) 9350156004683 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Narva-H7-12-24-Volt-LED-Conversion-Kit-18008/254001235297?epid=2288061113&hash=item3b23a74561:g:9eYAAOSwshVcqlvH&frcectupt=true)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on May 09, 2019, 07:22:57
Thanks for all that, i was about to ask if anyone had any other good suggestions.

seems these dont need a canbus and are cheap and are philips? Seems too good to be true at 36W too? From altona in Vic. I shall give them a shot.

They seem to need the socket adaptors which i have but i dont know how to attach the adaptors without doing a diy job, i was hoping it was a simple plug and play.

 :link: Pair Philips H7 12000LM LED Headlight KIT White Beam Replace Xenon Halogen Globe 501560109092 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pair-Philips-H7-12000LM-LED-Headlight-KIT-White-Beam-Replace-Xenon-Halogen-Globe/392132442098?epid=14028935367&hash=item5b4cea37f2&enc=AQADAAAC8FjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVkEfxrvp7daMtuvirbg1CPMkx0bNjgU8nD8yLPvk5GmPRi3E3%2F3%2BBhofBY3DFTxaqxGxirn8fnTjxLwx%2BQ4vZhc6H1TsccQob1qCF9wOnnqubmMxyvYB1lro8v%2ButUfWGBEq12jxilsn%2FZx%2BNvNK2U9OmBn811CtvqAMe2N7CZSpCaRTMliJa5pbNKsGTWdfnNHw%2F7fB%2Fy9GMiFUbTr0jUJVRab6kMkIBMbvqxlFW7dPbchu8iZsAcQqvGkscMI6MvXUgFdLYEL0lbfm11mnyT%2BaLNGMXvQqhA1fXUcJoIqdZ5wilfRwaeyVJSgoycp5TDXv4ExpyiuGE5pXtCsuc60Jrv7Wtx3Hy9jdiHwd5GFPHKkTx8RdAkMbFLpZQggbga03ghhdGGPzzsy89GCs9iy90JSFko9cFp742JP3c4NBko9XCYZyeNlTQOS15uMuh5g%2BPf%2B1f9KS5nT6tVlLutj1ytIQQ16RzbkRJGgMpdWidztO4PA7HSf0O%2Bf9NGaENp6LkHZuaatBSFUhjnPN%2FtOssHZn1718BK%2F99q1br4EaB%2F9J1DRulUiWLcrsEKgwo9al3OMa%2BZhHOPkquUuoxGVrHo9e9t7n4yWgzwBd3WhtG4JJgsqSS%2BRE52kEG8KSfYG135qqQOwG0sPAf%2BHdngHLvxfJWK9d77oZCl7oy402c4y6DlUHslH0vJ6xnl6mvZfkokXNXg67ttDnSn1B%2Bg8Q6UQ9a8BILTCgMWW3Mv50guhLr9smw%2BOcAcI%2BoUpPI6LvxbUe0wuL%2FG%2B3FSjL8v341Pnd6xiQ%2BZQC%2Bztsat0unh95Qg2spPgg6DE%2BYxqCZVQKz4kYvlyg544I465X2eFxnS%2F%2B8IR8yVsojAcGBH%2F%2FQ67mHjH7WgOVqpGx92NK%2FyznMV6VCy10OMNt8VNzPgI9Xq1a36cXAVapUMa%2BQ7ytlAD5vgo29rm9pWegPzCch&checksum=39213244209845e0cdf5f6e94cc795ceafdab1c8209b&frcectupt=true)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 09, 2019, 14:05:30
Thanks for all that, i was about to ask if anyone had any other good suggestions.

seems these dont need a canbus and are cheap and are philips? Seems too good to be true at 36W too? From altona in Vic. I shall give them a shot.

They seem to need the socket adaptors which i have but i dont know how to attach the adaptors without doing a diy job, i was hoping it was a simple plug and play.

 :link: Pair Philips H7 12000LM LED Headlight KIT White Beam Replace Xenon Halogen Globe 501560109092 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pair-Philips-H7-12000LM-LED-Headlight-KIT-White-Beam-Replace-Xenon-Halogen-Globe/392132442098?epid=14028935367&hash=item5b4cea37f2&enc=AQADAAAC8FjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVkEfxrvp7daMtuvirbg1CPMkx0bNjgU8nD8yLPvk5GmPRi3E3%2F3%2BBhofBY3DFTxaqxGxirn8fnTjxLwx%2BQ4vZhc6H1TsccQob1qCF9wOnnqubmMxyvYB1lro8v%2ButUfWGBEq12jxilsn%2FZx%2BNvNK2U9OmBn811CtvqAMe2N7CZSpCaRTMliJa5pbNKsGTWdfnNHw%2F7fB%2Fy9GMiFUbTr0jUJVRab6kMkIBMbvqxlFW7dPbchu8iZsAcQqvGkscMI6MvXUgFdLYEL0lbfm11mnyT%2BaLNGMXvQqhA1fXUcJoIqdZ5wilfRwaeyVJSgoycp5TDXv4ExpyiuGE5pXtCsuc60Jrv7Wtx3Hy9jdiHwd5GFPHKkTx8RdAkMbFLpZQggbga03ghhdGGPzzsy89GCs9iy90JSFko9cFp742JP3c4NBko9XCYZyeNlTQOS15uMuh5g%2BPf%2B1f9KS5nT6tVlLutj1ytIQQ16RzbkRJGgMpdWidztO4PA7HSf0O%2Bf9NGaENp6LkHZuaatBSFUhjnPN%2FtOssHZn1718BK%2F99q1br4EaB%2F9J1DRulUiWLcrsEKgwo9al3OMa%2BZhHOPkquUuoxGVrHo9e9t7n4yWgzwBd3WhtG4JJgsqSS%2BRE52kEG8KSfYG135qqQOwG0sPAf%2BHdngHLvxfJWK9d77oZCl7oy402c4y6DlUHslH0vJ6xnl6mvZfkokXNXg67ttDnSn1B%2Bg8Q6UQ9a8BILTCgMWW3Mv50guhLr9smw%2BOcAcI%2BoUpPI6LvxbUe0wuL%2FG%2B3FSjL8v341Pnd6xiQ%2BZQC%2Bztsat0unh95Qg2spPgg6DE%2BYxqCZVQKz4kYvlyg544I465X2eFxnS%2F%2B8IR8yVsojAcGBH%2F%2FQ67mHjH7WgOVqpGx92NK%2FyznMV6VCy10OMNt8VNzPgI9Xq1a36cXAVapUMa%2BQ7ytlAD5vgo29rm9pWegPzCch&checksum=39213244209845e0cdf5f6e94cc795ceafdab1c8209b&frcectupt=true)
They do require the Canbus adaptors I linked earlier, I also mentioned that these type would be extremely bright which you might get away with using on the high beams if they were H7 :undecided: but would think they are way too bright for the low's.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on May 10, 2019, 04:14:37
Ok so the search continues, i guess buying the philips for 200 bux would be my best option? Pricey but the safest option. Is there room for the canbus in the headlight?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 10, 2019, 04:39:08
What about the Narva ones I linked to the Roland eBay store, seem like a good design and price is right :goodjob2:

The canbus adapters are quite small and should fit inside the light housing...they would on my GD anyway.


You could go to your local Supercheap store and check them out first.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on May 15, 2019, 23:30:59
I think I will try the Navara ones you linked, they seem to come with the canbus, do the just slot into the socket or do i need to adapt something... i guess i shall find out!
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on May 16, 2019, 05:26:25
do the just slot into the socket or do i need to adapt something... i guess i shall find out!
Depends on how the bulbs are secured on your vehicle, if secured with the spring clip that’s fine, if secured by the power plug you’ll require adaptors  :link: 2pcs H7 LED Headlight Bulb Holder Adapter For KIA K3/4/5 Hyundai Sonata 9 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2pcs-H7-LED-Headlight-Bulb-Holder-Adapter-For-KIA-K3-4-5-Hyundai-Sonata-9/283430835623?hash=item41fdcb55a7:g:pOYAAOSwbS1cmegI)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on May 16, 2019, 06:21:55
Cheers i got some of them for the last set of LEDs but i think id have to glue them on. I shall see once the items arrive and post some pics for others.

Thanks again :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: the_odd_roo on August 07, 2019, 07:15:48
Hi all, I was following this topic even before I got my own i30. Just got an SR and couldn't really stand the halogen bulbs so swapped them for $30 LEDs from eBay. Much better colour consistency and brightness is okay. Only issue is that I get an error message on the dash now telling me to check my low beams. Even though they were meant to be error-free the result is quite acceptable for $30!

Link below
I30 LED bulb  :link: I30 LED bulb - Album on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/L7jH575)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: nogun on August 07, 2019, 07:39:04
Hi mate

Which LEDs did you buy for it? The colours seem to match well!
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 07, 2019, 07:49:39
Hi all, I was following this topic even before I got my own i30. Just got an SR and couldn't really stand the halogen bulbs so swapped them for $30 LEDs from eBay. Much better colour consistency and brightness is okay. Only issue is that I get an error message on the dash now telling me to check my low beams. Even though they were meant to be error-free the result is quite acceptable for $30!

Link below
I30 LED bulb  :link: I30 LED bulb - Album on Imgur (https://imgur.com/a/L7jH575)
You'll need Canbus decoders to eliminate the error on dash  :link: 2x H7 Car LED Load Resistor CAN Bus CANBus Decoder Error Free Canceller Adapter 730052890211 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-H7-Car-LED-Load-Resistor-CAN-Bus-CANBus-Decoder-Error-Free-Canceller-Adapter/112530009065?epid=2184789613&hash=item1a334fabe9:g:XK0AAOSwtG9bF5mM)

Without the decoders the LED bulbs you have installed wont last long as the extra current will burn them out in time.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 08, 2019, 11:57:10
Quote from: the_odd_roo on August 07, 2019, 02:15:48
Hi all, I was following this topic even before I got my own i30. Just got an SR and couldn't really stand the halogen bulbs so swapped them for $30 LEDs from eBay. Much better colour consistency and brightness is okay. Only issue is that I get an error message on the dash now telling me to check my low beams. Even though they were meant to be error-free the result is quite acceptable for $30!

Link below
I30 LED bulb   I30 LED bulb - Album on Imgur
You'll need Canbus decoders to eliminate the error on dash   2x H7 Car LED Load Resistor CAN Bus CANBus Decoder Error Free Canceller Adapter 730052890211 | eBay

Without the decoders the LED bulbs you have installed wont last long as the extra current will burn them out in time.

I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2019, 12:10:30
I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)
They're obviously for the high beams at 6000Lm per bulb, why not the obviously better quality Narva kit at a cheaper price :confused:  :link: Narva H7 12/24 Volt LED Conversion Kit (18008) 9350156004683 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Narva-H7-12-24-Volt-LED-Conversion-Kit-18008/254001235297?epid=2288061113&hash=item3b23a74561:g:9eYAAOSwshVcqlvH&frcectupt=true) they have the correct focusing tip to replicate the proper cut off line without light spray.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 08, 2019, 13:18:08
hoping there is 4 LEDs high and low beam as in picture on web site. Will let you know when they arrive, and come round  :whistler:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 08, 2019, 13:24:56
hoping there is 4 LEDs high and low beam as in picture on web site. Will let you know when they arrive, and come round  :whistler:
I didn't swap to LEDs but when I upgraded my globes I must say the PD is one of the easiest cars I've ever owned to swap headlight globes in..  :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2019, 13:25:38
hoping there is 4 LEDs high and low beam as in picture on web site. Will let you know when they arrive, and come round  :whistler:
But the picture only shows one LED on each side of the bulb :confused:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 08, 2019, 13:37:34
Its been a long 14 hour day, i saw 4 bulb assemblies but then Im also seeing other strange things from lack of sleep.    :crazy2:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2019, 14:25:13
@Crustycottage Aside from the lights that Cherry site has a good range of PD specific upgrades available, nice find :goodjob2:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on August 10, 2019, 03:01:29
Have anyone tried this out? http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol)
JW Speaker is quite popular in the USA from my research then.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 10, 2019, 04:07:44
Have anyone tried this out? http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol)
JW Speaker is quite popular in the USA from my research then.
Autobarn sell the JW brand in Australia, last time I checked them out they were a triangular shape bulb with only 180 degree light throw.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on August 10, 2019, 05:57:41
Have anyone tried this out? http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol)
JW Speaker is quite popular in the USA from my research then.
Autobarn sell the JW brand in Australia, last time I checked them out they were a triangular shape bulb with only 180 degree light throw.

They provide 2 versions (1 for reflector headlights, 1 for projector headlights). The one with triangular shape bulbs is specified for projector headlights. Will the 180 degrees light throw-out be better to avoid dazzling other drivers? Searching around but I can't find any review abt it
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 10, 2019, 06:49:31
Have anyone tried this out? http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol (http://www.blingworkauto.com.au/jw-speaker-h7-6000k-projector-lens-model-4000-evol)
JW Speaker is quite popular in the USA from my research then.
Autobarn sell the JW brand in Australia, last time I checked them out they were a triangular shape bulb with only 180 degree light throw.

They provide 2 versions (1 for reflector headlights, 1 for projector headlights). The one with triangular shape bulbs is specified for projector headlights. Will the 180 degrees light throw-out be better to avoid dazzling other drivers? Searching around but I can't find any review abt it
Well the bulb that is used within the projector is a 360 degrees light throw Halogen so typically you would be looking for an LED that best replicates the halogen design like these Narva units  :link: Narva LED Headlight Kit - H7 | Supercheap Auto (https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/narva-narva-led-headlight-kit---h7/546704.html)

 :link: Narva | H7 12/24V LED CONVERSION KIT (https://www.narva.com.au/products/18008)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 10, 2019, 07:43:38
That's not to say the JW bulbs wont work as I've never physically tested their new design but as with all the previous design types out there the only ones that have proven to function best were the LED's that best replicated the halogen as that was what the OEM housings were made to accommodate.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 10, 2019, 09:14:59
With all your helpul posts in these headlight threads I'm trying to decide whether to give you a new Designation @CraigB   . Can't decide between Light entertainer or Globetrotter... :snigger:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: The Gonz on August 10, 2019, 10:41:41
Perhaps he should be the forum's Illuminati. :lol:

Nah, I'm just lampooning the bright spark. :whistler:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 10, 2019, 10:45:40
Not wanting to 'threadjack' nor start another thread for a pretty dull question but RE: the HB3 high beam bulbs that are in the PD's. Firstly, they're pretty poor - so thinking replacing the halogen bulbs in them with one of the cheapo-ish LED ones. We live rural, my wife does a lot of night drives home in winter and well I think the high beams aren't up to the task .

Now I know these are technically illegal - but IMHO you run the main risk with those in your low beams - you'll be dipping your high beams anyway, so far less likely you'll draw attention to yourself.  Plus I'd be looking for something looking more normal e.g 4300K-5000K colour range. 

I have to say I find it really stupid that I could potentially get in trouble for putting LED bulbs in my high beams and yet I can mount a massive LED light bar or spotlights on my car and apparently use those completely legall!   Haha what is the difference really between them?

I don't know if anyone has found any cheapies they were reasonably happy with?

Also wondering if the PD needs CANBUS capable LEDs for it's high beams?

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 10, 2019, 11:54:53
With all your helpul posts in these headlight threads I'm trying to decide whether to give you a new Designation @CraigB   . Can't decide between Light entertainer or Globetrotter... :snigger:

Shining Light ?  :lol:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 10, 2019, 15:16:12
 :lol:
You've all brightened my day :D
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: the_odd_roo on August 13, 2019, 00:00:51
Hi mate

Which LEDs did you buy for it? The colours seem to match well!

Bought on eBay. Item number 223525972595. Correction, about $20.
I don't do any night driving, just the occasional tunnel and carpark. I realise now that these are a bit dimmer than the original halogens. I don't think it'd be suitable for a lot of night driving.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: The Gonz on August 13, 2019, 10:56:45
On the FD front (literally), my combo DRL blinkers glow a nice modern bluish every time the ignition is on. When I switch to parkers, they look sickly yellow in comparison, so I've finally ordered a bag of W5W LEDs, just be be consistent with the fresh look.

ns

Sorry, not meaning to hijack.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 13, 2019, 11:00:30
 :idea: :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 17, 2019, 02:49:10
@Crustycottage 'I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)'

Interested to know the outcome. They look promising.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 17, 2019, 03:37:53
@Crustycottage 'I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)'

Interested to know the outcome. They look promising.

They do look promising. I would have been very tempted had I not traded mine.  :Pout:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 17, 2019, 09:49:12
@Crustycottage 'I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade'

Interested to know the outcome. They look promising.
Hope they work out for you - the price is quite competitive being that they're 4 bulbs in all for both the high and lows.  That said I wonder how many of the 12000 claimed lumens, which I am sure is a bit of an exaggeration - is for the high and lows?   Hopefully they haven't gone too crazy on the latters which would have the potential to get you into issues if pulled over.

Also I'm a little surprised that they're using LEDs in the PD's high beam reflector housings - as I'd heard this was very much a no-no, just about everything online about doing this says simply don't even try.   It looks good from the image of the car in the ad but you'd really have to see the light pattern at night, then again if you're main using it in an urban area that might not be so much of an issue but would welcome hearing how you find the high beam pattern on an open dark road when you get them.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 17, 2019, 14:38:26
Iv'e got LED's in the normal beams.  I hardly use high beam to warrant me putting them in.
So far so good with a good spread of light.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: josh1990 on August 19, 2019, 07:36:13
I'm going to try the new JW Speaker "direct fits" in the GD when I have some spending money (thanks solar panels). Once I do I'll report back, could be a very good option if truly a no fuss solution. No pricing as yet as haven't looked but would expect around the $200 mark.

 :link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Direct Fit ? Invision Sales (https://invisionsales.com/products/led-headlight-conversion-kit-direct-fit/)

Edit - checked eBay, can be had under $140 - nice
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 19, 2019, 09:53:12
I'd like to get some LED headlights too.

My search led me to this website. You can get a refund if not happy. And the site lists my 2019 N Line.

However, the shape of the low beam projector doesn't look conventional to me, quite different to the likes of Philips X-treme Ultinon.

https://www.stedi.com.au/hyundai-getz-i30-elantra-sante-fe-sonata-iload-imax-ix35-led-light-upgrade-conversion-kit.html (https://www.stedi.com.au/hyundai-getz-i30-elantra-sante-fe-sonata-iload-imax-ix35-led-light-upgrade-conversion-kit.html)

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 19, 2019, 23:07:08
No pricing as yet as haven't looked but would expect around the $200 mark.

:link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Direct Fit ? Invision Sales
They look nice - my only thoughts on them are, how do they cool themselves as no passive heatsink and don't appear to have a fan either. Odd that in the listing they claim to have inbuilt canbus module but then also say they suggest people consult an auto sparky before buying to see if they need an extra canbus module - can't imagine why you'd need 2 modules for each light but I'm no pro in this sphere. They also claim ultra long life but give no tested minimum/average hours of use - which is pretty standard in the electronics/tech sector. They do look very compact and simple though, but IMHO thats going to come with significant tradeoffs likely affecting lifespan.

My search led me to this website. You can get a refund if not happy. And the site lists my 2019 N Line.
I'll give them credit they have some nice guides there, which are handyish to read. A lot of typos and grammar errors on their website. The products do look nice enough but still some errors in their listings - basic stuff like ciaming their passive headsinks are 100% copper when clearly they're coated with nickel or similar - so not 100% copper.

Call me dubious but I'd want to find someone who has returned their LEDs and gotten a full no questions refund first before I assumed they'd honour this.  Only thing I didn't like so much was that they were good enought to highlight the differences between reflector and projector headlight housings but they didn't explain how this affected their products and how they performed in them. FWIW coming from computer tech hobby copper as the material used in a passive heatsink is NOT very good - copper is a great conductor of heat, but in terms of dissipating it no where near as good as aluminium - so the heatsinks they claim as 100% copper would be best having copper just where they meet the LED's base but then aluminium braiding to get rid of the heat.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 20, 2019, 03:53:54
There is also the option for these. Guaranteed to fit

LED upgrade for the non-Premium model PD (2017+) i30.

Replaces the low and high beam bulbs with 6000K (White) LED bulbs.

The bulbs are CANBUS bulbs, so they don't cause any errors with the computer system and are rated at 80W and 12,000 Lumens and are guaranteed to fit the i30 headlight housing, which can't be said of all LED bulbs. In fact, we went through 4 different suppliers trying to find the perfect bulbs to make our kit!
 :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 20, 2019, 04:55:18
The bulbs are CANBUS bulbs, so they don't cause any errors with the computer system and are rated at 80W and 12,000 Lumens and are guaranteed to fit the i30 headlight housing, which can't be said of all LED bulbs. In fact, we went through 4 different suppliers trying to find the perfect bulbs to make our kit!
:link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade
The bummer with those is they're ridiculously slim on info - lumens from HB /LB? Warranty? Plus you'd expect info on the fan noise, LEDs used etc - they might be great but they're putting in less effort in selling these than I do when I list old junk on Gumtree.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 20, 2019, 05:11:35
I'm going to try the new JW Speaker "direct fits" in the GD when I have some spending money (thanks solar panels). Once I do I'll report back, could be a very good option if truly a no fuss solution. No pricing as yet as haven't looked but would expect around the $200 mark.

 :link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Direct Fit ? Invision Sales (https://invisionsales.com/products/led-headlight-conversion-kit-direct-fit/)

Edit - checked eBay, can be had under $140 - nice
Now those ones look interesting  :goodjob2: they have the same lumileds as the Narva units and also the correct end cap to replicate the H7 halogen design like Narva so there should be no problems with cut off lines in projector or reflector :goodjob: https://invisionsales.com/product-specs/999007/ (https://invisionsales.com/product-specs/999007/) you’ll likely still require canbus adaptors, though that is nothing unusual
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 20, 2019, 05:20:29
There is also the option for these. Guaranteed to fit

LED upgrade for the non-Premium model PD (2017+) i30.

Replaces the low and high beam bulbs with 6000K (White) LED bulbs.

The bulbs are CANBUS bulbs, so they don't cause any errors with the computer system and are rated at 80W and 12,000 Lumens and are guaranteed to fit the i30 headlight housing, which can't be said of all LED bulbs. In fact, we went through 4 different suppliers trying to find the perfect bulbs to make our kit!
 :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)
I looked at these the other day when Crustycottage put them up, wasn’t impressed with the bulb design as it doesn’t replicate the halogen design in any shape or form, the Cob LEDs used are also very cheap and nasty old tech :disapp: I didn’t realise when first inspecting they used fans :Shocked: another big no no :disapp: fan enclosed in sealed light housings don’t work correctly and when the fan decides to stop working you then have issues with excessive heat and probable cause of fire :eek:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: ricleo on August 20, 2019, 05:47:41
@Crustycottage 'I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)'

Interested to know the outcome. They look promising.

They do look promising. I would have been very tempted had I not traded mine.  :Pout:

Dazz you traded your car away? what's the next car? i30N? :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 20, 2019, 06:49:24
So the JW Speaker Direct Fit H7 LED bulbs are a straight swap with built in canbus.

No adapter, no rubber boot to increase rear space, no module to poke into an already cramped space.

Lumens aren't super high, but still more than regular halogen.

This is looking like the one I'll try. eBay has them for $112.50.

The Direct Fit range might be new, can't seem to find reviews or beam pattern pics. 

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 20, 2019, 07:54:34
Only real concern with the JW bulbs are if an adapter is able to be fitted to secure the low beams in place :undecided:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 20, 2019, 08:38:51
another big no no :disapp: fan enclosed in sealed light housings don’t work correctly and when the fan decides to stop working you then have issues with excessive heat and probable cause of fire
A passive heatsink is going to effectively be no better than a fan in an enclosed environment at dissipating heat - if anything the fans might even be a tad superior BUT as you pointed out they can fail due to the heat or other reasons and then poor heat dispersion turns to catastrophic and bad things happen. The enclosed environment is the real killer as while halogens can handle it LEDs suffer - I wonder if many folks leave a bit of a gap or something - especially as many units have some level of waterproofing.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 20, 2019, 10:08:56
@Crustycottage 'I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)'

Interested to know the outcome. They look promising.

They do look promising. I would have been very tempted had I not traded mine.  :Pout:

Dazz you traded your car away? what's the next car? i30N? :)

Due to doing a lot of long road trips with everything but the kitchen sink we decided to go back to another Hybrid Camry (we previously had 2010 and 2012 models). Bigger boot by 125 litres, quieter and better on fuel by more than 2.5 L/100 kms.

Had I been a bit younger with less health issues and if the i30N fastback had Automated Cruise I might have been tempted by one of those.  :mrgreen:

Here's a bit more about my Camry purchase (Hopefully less than 3 weeks away now)

 :link: Naughty Dazz has ordered a new car! (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=54596.0)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: xiziz on August 21, 2019, 08:56:41
HB3 on my Ioniq too, have the factory LED low beams but the highs are halogen. Turning them on turns the distant landscape yellow and not very well illuminated, really bugs my eyes. Hyundai really need to learn how to do high beams that illuminate more than the reflectors on the side of the road. I'm gonna switch to LED when it starts getting a bit darker here.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Shambles on August 21, 2019, 10:36:00
Quote from: xiziz
I'm gonna switch to LED when it starts getting a bit darker here.

That'd be around 10pm? :P
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 22, 2019, 03:28:41
I asked an eBay seller some questions about the JW Speaker Direct Fit bulbs. The seller got back saying he/she would ask their supplier.

Here is the response from the supplier:

'The new direct fit globes will have no problem working in your polycarbonate headlights, 95% of the heat is dissipated via the rear of the globe, via the small heatsink.

The globes have no problem working in a confined space with the dust cap on.
There is no reduced performance in the globe with high heat.

If you are interested in purchasing the globes and they don’t fit we offer a 30 day free return, if the packaging is intact and product not used'.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 22, 2019, 04:38:55
 :Shocked:
Go again ! ?
"packaging intact and product not used" 
How else are you going to see if they work?  FFS  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 22, 2019, 06:49:02
 :whsaid:

I'll be interested to know if they work correctly without the extra inline canbus adaptors :undecided: they certainly look like one of the better designs I've seen recently and even if they do require the inline adaptors they're fairly small now days and have no problem fitting inside the light housing.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 22, 2019, 07:19:24
Canbus resistors produce heat, that much is evident by their heat sink body/design.

Will using canbus resistors reduce the heat produce by the bulb?

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 22, 2019, 08:19:44
Canbus resistors produce heat, that much is evident by their heat sink body/design.

Will using canbus resistors reduce the heat produce by the bulb?
Yes, inline adaptors would remove some of the heat before being passed to the bulb, though the adaptors only get warm from my experience so heat shouldn't be to much of a problem with bulbs using better materials in their heatsink designs, I'm more concerned whether the inbuilt canbus will fool the cars warning system without requiring the extra adaptor :undecided:

Did you ask whether the bulbs are removable from their base so that mounting adaptors/lock tabs can be fitted for the low beam lights?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 22, 2019, 08:33:50
I did ask if an adapter was needed and linked to here:  :link: 2x H7 LED Headlight Bulb Base Holder Adapter Kia K6 Hyundai Tucson Mistra ioniq | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-H7-LED-Headlight-Bulb-Base-Holder-Adapter-Kia-K6-Hyundai-Tucson-Mistra-ioniq/323213590610?fits=Model%3Ai30&hash=item4b41080052:g:vpsAAOSwHBda1rnW&frcectupt=true)

The answer was no. The seller (not the supplier) told me: 'The globes are direct fit there is no extra brackets required'.

That being the case, the ability to remove the top half doesn't seem necessary. Correct if I'm wrong. I'm not 100% certain.

Anyway, I've gone ahead and made the purchase. Hopefully they fit and hopefully the in-built canbus is sufficient for the i30. Worst comes to worse I'll send them back (I'll take care opening the box :p)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 22, 2019, 08:43:54
Fingers crossed :Good_luck:  I have a feeling that locking adaptors are still going to be required though as the bulb base is longer than the standard bulb which will prohibit the power plug from being able to lock the bulb in.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 22, 2019, 10:31:29
Fingers crossed indeed! I hope they live up to the 'Direct Fit' name.

If it turns out I do need locking adapters, are the ones I linked to above the right ones to get?

And am I correct is thinking ... for these locking adapters to be fitted correctly the base of the JW headlight would have to screw off? 

Craig, thanks for your continued interest and support.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 22, 2019, 10:40:58
They should fit :Good_luck: and yes the H7 ring or base needs to be removeable.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 22, 2019, 10:48:15
I'm not 100% certain on that adaptor :undecided: these type would be what fits my GD  :link: Pair of H7 Car LED Headlight Bulb LED Adapter Holder LED Adapter Socket Base AZ | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pair-of-H7-Car-LED-Headlight-Bulb-LED-Adapter-Holder-LED-Adapter-Socket-Base-AZ/113549590458?hash=item1a70153fba:g:wR8AAOSw0YlcOfE4)

You need to look at the power plug in your low beam housing and see if the three side tabs match up.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 23, 2019, 01:25:32
I did ask if an adapter was needed and linked to here:  :link: 2x H7 LED Headlight Bulb Base Holder Adapter Kia K6 Hyundai Tucson Mistra ioniq | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-H7-LED-Headlight-Bulb-Base-Holder-Adapter-Kia-K6-Hyundai-Tucson-Mistra-ioniq/323213590610?fits=Model%3Ai30&hash=item4b41080052:g:vpsAAOSwHBda1rnW&frcectupt=true)

The answer was no. The seller (not the supplier) told me: 'The globes are direct fit there is no extra brackets required'.

That being the case, the ability to remove the top half doesn't seem necessary. Correct if I'm wrong. I'm not 100% certain.

Anyway, I've gone ahead and made the purchase. Hopefully they fit and hopefully the in-built canbus is sufficient for the i30. Worst comes to worse I'll send them back (I'll take care opening the box :p)

If these are the globes you are looking at.   :link: JW Speaker H7 LED 6000K DIRECT FIT LED GLOBE - BUILT IN CANBUS pair 12-24V | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/JW-Speaker-H7-LED-6000K-DIRECT-FIT-LED-GLOBE-BUILT-IN-CANBUS-pair-12-24V/183867183894?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2acf569316:g:pU8AAOSw3fNdGgMs&enc=AQAEAAAB4BPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWDtXZi%2BYYFsgYwo4ZZHxrKlbV9ZzwlGMp2JaGq0Zq0vwV16mmUszsBPGLVCP0SR8Jkjd56cI1AK2S5DYAfPaiF5Qpnofg56GFQbTFY4NMAkgaXaf16kJrtMzK2J1cAGFI3XOPtPrA%2BFaHQQwQVqNaMrYKtaNkjKRzmRA8nIltpK24%2BrDaCuzDf%2FZe2C5lRGKM%2FeKMdit8sr7qXDcGv0jaFxk46ylVsp4m5XPAJ4DhANgr1H5tUShnwpTZzc2dGzdqgu9TdGKTvE5gYBT0gGlApsjtNCl72C5rKKGyzuC8CIPxKCJUqTk2VMwqHXPxJ1Y4kIhISJY9takLaQPBoi0r05lQC6m9Ufjk%2BXh%2BlnuFGdjr03WoAUbQYuvec8SWBCBtiBUHyVYnpkXH1iKBChoGTT3Lbhbkb9t%2BcrNRutEKGjqzSofLXznjQVJg03GgCYk4y6VZiTG%2BGCxFTBJakPT8Egm6yPccXQ97pSOsfODcioSeNSEhV6Fo5TWHsxH75X%2BPAwq4hfFxgOo8ZWyFqWC1br6AodXgGGMW0XXcdlHtDC0qnoyDesRFX34sgQ2Zm70T5mODK%2BN7UtjODfzgp4cmZJJ4wAFJnI7QAxvlz%2B%2BjC%2Fw%3D%3D&checksum=1838671838943bb6e7b9f47b400aac9089ba974c68d8&frcectupt=true)

Then you will 1000% will need adaptors.  The adaptors you linked earlier in the post look like the correct ones. These are the ones that I used.
 :link: 2pcs H7 LED Bulbs Clip Holder Adapters Retainer Fit for Hyundai Elantra Tucson | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2pcs-H7-LED-Bulbs-Clip-Holder-Adapters-Retainer-Fit-for-Hyundai-Elantra-Tucson/153508405630?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

The LED's that I used are similar to theses ones. Around the base there is a locking ball bearing that clips into the plastic adaptor. The black piece with holes in it.
That just slides off. Then you can mount the plastic holder in the light. Then just push the globe in till it clips into the ball bearing.
 :link: H7 OSRAM LED Headlight Kit 1150W 172500LM Conversion Globes Bulbs Low Beam 6500K | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-OSRAM-LED-Car-Headlight-Kit-100W-15500LM-Conversion-Globes-Bulbs-Beam-6500K/153003248120?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

Only problem I'm having is fitting the Hyundai light base into the housing so the cap can be put back on. As there is not a great deal of room in there.

Would of been so much easier if it was still the wire type clip holders.



On the PD, Hyundai really made it hard to put LED's lights in. Due to the mounting for the H7 globes
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 23, 2019, 02:58:10
Thanks for the detailed descriptions. I haven't seen the fitting in my car, but I've felt around in there and it twists to lock (I swapped the stock halogens for Night Breakers I had from a previous car).

I understand a locking adapter is needed. So unless the JW kit comes with some type of magic interchangeable-adjustable-adapter for all cars, I'll be buying the Hyundai adapter Purplehazeffc and I linked to above.   

@Purplehazeffc - Do the dust caps on your PD have a moisture absorbing pouch built into them? Mine does. I saw a vid where it was suggested to remove the pouch (held in place with a bracket and screws) to free up some depth (maybe 2cm) for the led headlight connection.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 23, 2019, 06:47:34
Thanks for the detailed descriptions. I haven't seen the fitting in my car, but I've felt around in there and it twists to lock (I swapped the stock halogens for Night Breakers I had from a previous car).

I understand a locking adapter is needed. So unless the JW kit comes with some type of magic interchangeable-adjustable-adapter for all cars, I'll be buying the Hyundai adapter Purplehazeffc and I linked to above.   

@Purplehazeffc - Do the dust caps on your PD have a moisture absorbing pouch built into them? Mine does. I saw a vid where it was suggested to remove the pouch (held in place with a bracket and screws) to free up some depth (maybe 2cm) for the led headlight connection.

Mine are just all plastic.  Nothing at all on the caps..  Interesting that yours does.
Iv'e not got the caps on mine ATM.  As I can't get the stock holders in & put the cap on. As I think the LED's I have are just a bit to long.
I do have shorter ones ordered that should allow the caps to fit..    The LED's make a huge difference
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 23, 2019, 13:50:25
Here's a little more info on the JW direct fit bulbs  :link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Direct Fit ? Invision Sales (https://invisionsales.com/products/led-headlight-conversion-kit-direct-fit/)

It does mention that some vehicles might require the extra CANbus unit depending on how technical their system is, hard to know if needed until they've been tested though :neutral:

The Hyundai CANbus system is quite basic compared to VW so hopefully it wont be required, my built in CANbus indicator bulbs work fine on my car but when I tried them in my brothers Amarok it spat the dummy :disapp:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 24, 2019, 02:35:25
Well I purchased some locking adapters.

When the JW bulbs arrive I'll be sure to post pics of the box contents.

And for the sake of pics (and ease), I'm thinking I'll remove the whole headlight from the car to attempt the change over.

I'll wait and see if the built in canbus decoder is good enough. If a dash error occurs or hyperflashing I guess I'll get some canbus modules, like these:  :link: (PAIR) JW Speaker 25W 21W Load Resistor CANbus LED Control Unit ERROR Canceler | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PAIR-JW-Speaker-25W-21W-Load-Resistor-CANbus-LED-Control-Unit-ERROR-Canceler/112635844349?epid=22009108468&hash=item1a399e96fd:g:FrUAAOSwaSZaEnDK&frcectupt=true)

I have installed rear led indicators with built in canbus too, (from Classic Car LEDs, 700 lumen). They work fine. The whole back of the car is now led (i.e swapped out the reverse lights too). If I swap out the front indicators with the same led lights, Classic Car LEDs says I might need to wire in an additional module to prevent canbus issues. That will be the next job, after the JW upgrade. 

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 24, 2019, 04:19:36
I think you will be OK with the CANBUS..
My LED's didn't even say that they have in built CANBUS. But they are working just fine with no errors.

As Craig said above.  Hyundai's CANBUS looks quite basic & not so sensitive.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 24, 2019, 05:52:54

I have installed rear led indicators with built in canbus too, (from Classic Car LEDs, 700 lumen). They work fine. The whole back of the car is now led (i.e swapped out the reverse lights too). If I swap out the front indicators with the same led lights, Classic Car LEDs says I might need to wire in an additional module to prevent canbus issues. That will be the next job, after the JW upgrade.
If the indicator bulbs are these  :link: 1 x Canbus BRIGHT AMBER LED INDICATOR BULB No Hyperflash BAU15S PY21W ? Classic Car LEDs Ltd (https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/collections/strong-canbus/products/canbus-bright-amber-led-indicator-bulbsno-hyperflash-bau15s-py21w-glb581?variant=15353461932141) you won’t need any extra resistors when replacing the front, they work great  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 24, 2019, 06:28:29
Yes, they are the ones I placed in the rear.

Thanks for letting me know they'll work in the front too :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 24, 2019, 09:20:01
@Crustycottage 'I have ordered a set of LEDs from these guys Cherry Tuning & Performance $145 all up, i will let you know when they arrive and fitted  :link: PD (2017+) i30 LED Headlight Upgrade (https://www.cherry-tp.com.au/store/p1/i30_LED_KIT.html)'

Interested to know the outcome. They look promising.

Sorry for long delay working away in Hill Billy Hell and now have flu.  :blubber: I fitted all LEDs which went ok apart from glue failing on the H7 adapter ring. I informed the supplier and they have now changed their glue so should not be a problem in future.

You need to pull the terminal block connectors apart from original bulb ring to connect to H7 canbus resistor plug which is quite easy with flat bladed screwdriver. Fitting it all back in low beam headlight assembly is tight but doable, and cover goes back not problems. The HB3 LEDs main beams are more fiddly, especially on passenger side with less room with battery compartment. the 3 tangs don't quite match existing bulb so a bit of suck it and see until they rotate and lock in position. Again squeeze canbus resistor & plug connector into main beam assembly and replace dust cover.

As CraigB said they do have a fan on back of heatsink which comes on with LED. I suppose i compare it to my PC Intel processor fan which just keeps spinning keeping chip cool. Only used headlights for 45 minutes runs so far with no issues. A whiter light but not tried in unlit streets as not feeling up for driving anywhere right now.

I will give more updates after some decent testing
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: pandateo on August 24, 2019, 22:12:32
 :link: Pair Philips H7 12000LM LED Headlight KIT White Beam Replace Xenon Halogen Globe | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F392132442098)

These look identical to the JW speaker ones at half the price. Description says it may need canbus though.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 24, 2019, 22:43:36
:link: Pair Philips H7 12000LM LED Headlight KIT White Beam Replace Xenon Halogen Globe | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F392132442098)

These look identical to the JW speaker ones at half the price. Description says it may need canbus though.

Welcome. That's a great find. I assume genuine philips and a premium seller. If I was keeping my car I'd be trying some of those!
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 25, 2019, 02:34:31
:link: Pair Philips H7 12000LM LED Headlight KIT White Beam Replace Xenon Halogen Globe | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F392132442098)

These look identical to the JW speaker ones at half the price. Description says it may need canbus though.

I've been trying to work these out. Different brand names in different countries with slightly different specs can get confusing.

These have 2 extra chips per bulb compared to the JW direct fit ones, and claim a much higher lumen output (6000 per bulb vs 1800). They also have a higher wattage (18w vs 16w) and lower operating temp range (max 80c vs max 130c).

Construction is different too. JW use 1070 aluminum, the ones linked above use 6063 (no idea what that means, requires a google search, might explain the heat range difference).

99% sure they'll be 'Philips style' chips (cps), just like the JW bulbs.

These one (from the US) seem identical to the JW direct fit range, even the brand name is similar:  :link: Headlight Revolution PerfectFIT LED Headlights, H7 Bulbs - Headlight Revolution (https://headlightrevolution.com/headlight-revolution-perfectfit-led-headlights-h7-bulbs/)

Guess it depends what you're looking for. The best thing about all these bulbs is the potential for them to fit inside the light enclosure with the dust cap in place. The 6000 lumen bulbs will be really bright (approx x6 stock halogen), whereas the JW will be approx x2. x2 seems like more of a normal driving experience to me, but others might like the extra light.   

Maybe @Purplehazeffc fitted 6000 lumen bulbs and can comment?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 25, 2019, 03:59:19
The 6000 lumen bulbs will be really bright (approx x6 stock halogen), whereas the JW will be approx x2.
Ebay/AliEx lumens claims are always very, very exaggerated - whereas when a known brand puts it on their website it's far more accurate - so there's no way in the world they're even close to 6000 lumens - I'd expect them to be very similar to the 'known' JW rating.

 
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The best thing about all these bulbs is the potential for them to fit inside the light enclosure with the dust cap in place.
Are we sure it's a good thing to have temperature sensitive electronics stuffed in a sealed environment? 

Complete laymen's view but it's one thing for a halogen bulb to be in there - as for all intents and purposes the heat it generates won't significantly affect it - but for an LED bulb, whether it's active or passively cooled I would question if the sealed dust cap being on is a good thing.

There's pretty cheaply available aftermarket dust covers that allow the heatsink/fan of the LED to exit out, thus in theory releasing most of the heat outside of the sealed light housing.

Cheap vented dust cover (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/32891696807.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.780f2e0etEyLVF)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 25, 2019, 05:51:20
Not sure of what the Lumens output that I have got.

As Nikko mentioned. eBay listings can be exaggerated by quite a bit.  It's the same when looking at the cheaper range of Projectors.

The ones that I have don't look like they are listed. When i click on the Item I purchased.
It takes me to these ones. Which do look Identical. Except mine are silver & these are in gold.
 :link: H7 OSRAM LED Headlight Kit 1150W 172500LM Conversion Globes Bulbs Low Beam 6500K | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-OSRAM-LED-Car-Headlight-Kit-100W-15500LM-Conversion-Globes-Bulbs-Beam-6500K/153003248120?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

Iv'e now had mine on for just over a week. And have had no problems. As mentioned I do have the dust covers OFF.
As it would be a very tight squeeze getting everything in. But I do know that the heat sink does get pretty warm.
To the point you can't touch it for any longer that a cpl of seconds.
The light looks quite evenly spread & nice & white.  And brighter than std halogens.  Buy how much?  Not sure.
But is a worthwhile upgrade..
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 25, 2019, 07:22:02
The 6000 lumen bulbs will be really bright (approx x6 stock halogen), whereas the JW will be approx x2.
Ebay/AliEx lumens claims are always very, very exaggerated - whereas when a known brand puts it on their website it's far more accurate - so there's no way in the world they're even close to 6000 lumens - I'd expect them to be very similar to the 'known' JW rating.
If the Philips bulbs are listed at 6000lm each then I’d expect it to be so, I’ve seen LEDs much brighter than mentioned so 6000lm is well within capable expectations and would work fine in the high beam side.

There is also no problem using Narva Philips or JW passive bulbs in a sealed housing, they been made specifically to fit inside these enclosures and the Philips lumiled chips used on all three brands will not fade lenses.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 25, 2019, 23:52:41
If the Philips bulbs are listed at 6000lm each then I’d expect it to be so, I’ve seen LEDs much brighter than mentioned so 6000lm is well within capable expectations and would work fine in the high beam side.
On what basis exactly?  These are not an official Philips product, rather a generic chinese make being onsold via an Ebay seller under a random name - LightFox.  So you think the Ebay seller has tested these to verify the lumens figure or do you believe this is one of the honest chinese manufacturers and they're giving an honest accurate figure? 

Yeah I've seen ones a lot brighter too - but what that has to do with a pair of $50 generic bulbs I'm unsure - as thats exactly NOT within 'capable expectations' and it's known these guys just trot out a random lumens claim to make the item seem better than it is as most plonkers just buy based on that.

So anyway do tell why you feel this specific seller/item is expected by you to be accurate?

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There is also no problem using Narva Philips or JW passive bulbs in a sealed housing, they been made specifically to fit inside these enclosures and the Philips lumiled chips used on all three brands will not fade lenses.
There's a difference between something being a 'problem' and 'not ideal' - and I'm going to proceed with it being a fact that the lifespan of LEDs is dramatically impacted by exposure to high temps as thats a pretty well established general fact.

So could you use top tier LEDs in a sealed housing without any 'problem'?  For all intents and purposes it's possible but I think it's more than likely they'd live much longer on average if they had some way of getting their heat out of a closed environment and given those or any other number of after market dust caps are available for under $5 each delivered - I'm unsure why one would chose to instead lock the heat in the housing.

And I'm sorry but many of even the top tier brands will not fit in many cars headlight fittings - I need look no further than my own PD's highbeams to assure you very few LEDs would fit inside - so the reality is most people's housings were made to have a non-heat affected halogen bulb inside - so sealing this up wasn't an issue - but if you do the same with a known heat affected LED bulb - well IMHO thats maybe not a 'problem' but it will definitely impact the lifespan of the LED and for less than top tier models this may well be a 'problem' as they're less well made and as such more likely to suffer early failure if subject to high temps.


Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 26, 2019, 01:08:54
WOW ! ,
So much discussion on poor performing headlight low & high beam. 
:disapp:  :spitty:
Maybe a night time test drive should be added as one of the things to do when deciding on which vehicle to buy.  :mrgreen:  :whistler:
If  I've said it once, I've said it 10 million times:
People always exaggerate things, we all do .
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on August 26, 2019, 02:00:37
WOW ! ,
So much discussion on poor performing headlight low & high beam. 
:disapp:  :spitty:
Maybe a night time test drive should be added as one of the things to do when deciding on which vehicle to buy.  :mrgreen:  :whistler:
If  I've said it once, I've said it 10 million times:
People always exaggerate things, we all do .

Such a long discussion lol. But at the end I haven’t seen any pictures of actual fittings and the pattern of light output here.
Maybe wait for @Dantrasy then.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 03:07:43
If the Philips bulbs are listed at 6000lm each then I’d expect it to be so, I’ve seen LEDs much brighter than mentioned so 6000lm is well within capable expectations and would work fine in the high beam side.
On what basis exactly?  These are not an official Philips product, rather a generic chinese make being onsold via an Ebay seller under a random name - LightFox.  So you think the Ebay seller has tested these to verify the lumens figure or do you believe this is one of the honest chinese manufacturers and they're giving an honest accurate figure? 

Yeah I've seen ones a lot brighter too - but what that has to do with a pair of $50 generic bulbs I'm unsure - as thats exactly NOT within 'capable expectations' and it's known these guys just trot out a random lumens claim to make the item seem better than it is as most plonkers just buy based on that.

So anyway do tell why you feel this specific seller/item is expected by you to be accurate?


You do realise all Lumiled chips are Philips and that most of our Philips lighting products are made in the Chinese Philips company anyway, whether they have rebranded or generic Lightfox housings they are essentially still Philips.

Lightfox are a very popular brand in China so not unusual to see them being sold here via a popular Australia seller.






Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 03:50:51
And I'm sorry but many of even the top tier brands will not fit in many cars headlight fittings - I need look no further than my own PD's highbeams to assure you very few LEDs would fit inside - so the reality is most people's housings were made to have a non-heat affected halogen bulb inside - so sealing this up wasn't an issue - but if you do the same with a known heat affected LED bulb - well IMHO thats maybe not a 'problem' but it will definitely impact the lifespan of the LED and for less than top tier models this may well be a 'problem' as they're less well made and as such more likely to suffer early failure if subject to high temps.
I know many of the bulbs wont fit, that's why we are discussing a specific few that have the ability to fit, and the more recent ones are possibly able to fit inside the dust caps without extendable rubber boots and without having the wiring and plug base exposed inside the engine bay to even more heat and dirt.





Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 26, 2019, 04:52:56
WOW ! ,
So much discussion on poor performing headlight low & high beam. 
:disapp:  :spitty:
Maybe a night time test drive should be added as one of the things to do when deciding on which vehicle to buy.  :mrgreen:  :whistler:
If  I've said it once, I've said it 10 million times:
People always exaggerate things, we all do .

Such a long discussion lol. But at the end I haven’t seen any pictures of actual fittings and the pattern of light output here.
Maybe wait for @Dantrasy then.

I'm more than happy to put up a photo of the lights at night..   But I'm on nightshift for the next to nights.
But I'll upload one later on in the week.

I do agree that these put out a bit of heat. But how much more heat output compared to a halogen globe?
Due to the size of the heatsink on my LED's. I'm unable to fit everything in & put on the cap.
And if I could. Either the original globe holder or wires would be touching the heatsink, with a possibility of melting..
The LED's do have a silicone ring around the base. That seals the globe in the housing. So dirt can get in there anyway
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 26, 2019, 05:16:00
I do agree that these put out a bit of heat. But how much more heat output compared to a halogen globe?
Funny you say this as I was surprised to have literally just read an article that said even energy efficient modern LEDs end up converting only 35% of their power to light, with 65% of it going to heat!

Halogens are approx 90% heat! There's a reason they're used for making heat lamps.

The figures vary - but those are roughly indicative.

Maybe consider getting some extended rubber boots/caps - lots of styles available and you can pick to suit the LEDs you got.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 07:13:46
You do realise all Lumiled chips are Philips and that most of our Philips lighting products are made in the Chinese Philips company anyway, whether they have rebranded or generic Lightfox housings they are essentially still Philips.
And you do realise that faking Philips automotive LEDs is so widespread that they had to start putting check codes on their boxes so people could ensure it was actually a genuine Philips item - likewise if you check listings on Ebay and AliEx you'll see the sellers will be very canny in saying it's a 'Lumiled' or ZES chip but avoid saying Philips - as there's a big business in making it seem like they're legit when they're quite possibly not.
Yes yes we all know of the copies out there that are replicating the housings as even the good copies will still use genuine chips.

COB LEDs are very easy to fake/replicate which is not the case with lumileds, if were so easy Narva - JW and many more would produce their own rather than using the Philips tech in their designs.

Your googling skills require improvement if you can’t find Lightfox as they are huge  :link: Lightfox LED Light Bars | Driving Lights | Australia ? lightfoxau (https://www.lightfox.com.au/)

The eBay seller is an Australian international distributor  :link: Offroad Lighting | Camping Store | Australia? sunyee (https://www.sunyee.com.au/)

Vicoffroad Australia another big seller of Lightfox  :link: Pair LED Headlight Kit Driving Lamp H7 High Low Beam Globe bulbs upgrade deisgn (https://www.vicoffroad.com.au/pair-led-headlight-kit-driving-lamp-h7-high-low-beam-globe-bulbs-upgrade-deisgn.html)

Going backwards and forwards over details I’ve been researching for years is getting rather tiresome so if the constant skepticism is your goal here I’d suggest taking it up on another forum that likes to deal with people like yourself, I know I’ve had just about enough of it :rolleyes:










Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 07:39:04
I’ve attended similar displays in Singapore and Japan though not this one but shows like here  :link: LED CHINA 2019 Shanghai Show | September 18-20 | Home (https://www.ledchina.com/shanghai/en-us/) have vast amounts of knowledge and advice on hand and where you’d be really surprised with who actually makes what.

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 26, 2019, 08:22:59
I’ve attended similar displays in Singapore and Japan though not this one but shows like here  :link: LED CHINA 2019 Shanghai Show | September 18-20 | Home (https://www.ledchina.com/shanghai/en-us/) have vast amounts of knowledge and advice on hand and where you’d be really surprised with who actually makes what.
So it's similar to beer, discount food items, air conds, tv's, computer parts, furniture  and even car tyres. Many brands, but few manufacturers.
While I've got you, what do you recommend as a  replacement for the high beams in Santa?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 08:34:46
@Dantrasy I had a nice long chat with Invision sales today, unfortunately the Direct Fit bulbs are one piece which will make it near impossible to fit an adaptor :Pout:

Invision are also well informed on the i30 light housing dilemma but unfortunately they have no answers at this stage and only recommend the new 4000 series projector range which they ensure will fit the i30 low beams (even though a little tighter fit) and they don't supply adaptors or dust caps at this stage  :link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Model Evolution 4000 ? Projector Range ? Invision Sales (https://invisionsales.com/products/led-headlight-conversion-kit-model-evolution-4000-projector-range/)
 
Invision are looking into making the direct fit bulbs as a complete kit for the i30 at some stage, this would entail bulbs pre fitted with the correct adaptor and also includes extended dust caps, they just produced this type of kit for the Mazda BT50/Ford Ranger which was in development for the last two years so likely it'll be a couple of years before being available for our Hyundai's
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 08:40:41
While I've got you, what do you recommend as a  replacement for the high beams in Santa?
What are the bulbs used in their highs? are they spring clip secured? I'm guessing they're a reflector housing :undecided: do you have room for LED's or are you wanting to stay with halogen?

@mickd still one of the best design LED bulbs at a good price I've come across are the Narva's  :link: Narva | H7 12/24V LED CONVERSION KIT (https://www.narva.com.au/products/18008)  :link: Narva | Globes - Performance Headlight (https://www.narva.com.au/categories/lighting/performance-globes?q=&per_page=12) though those JW Direct fit would be good as well but look to only be usable if you have the spring clip secured bulbs at this stage.

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 26, 2019, 09:04:04
While I've got you, what do you recommend as a  replacement for the high beams in Santa?
What are the bulbs used in their highs? are they spring clip secured? I'm guessing they're a reflector housing :undecided: do you have room for LED's or are you wanting to stay with halogen?

@mickd still one of the best design LED bulbs at a good price I've come across are the Narva's  :link: Narva | H7 12/24V LED CONVERSION KIT (https://www.narva.com.au/products/18008)  :link: Narva | Globes - Performance Headlight (https://www.narva.com.au/categories/lighting/performance-globes?q=&per_page=12) though those JW Direct fit would be good as well but look to only be usable if you have the spring clip secured bulbs at this stage.
Cheers,  will have a squizz and do some measuring and a couple of pics  :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 26, 2019, 12:35:03
@Dantrasy I had a nice long chat with Invision sales today, unfortunately the Direct Fit bulbs are one piece which will make it near impossible to fit an adaptor :Pout:

oh no.  :blubber:

Need to find a plan B now.

Thanks for the info. I hope the seller honours his word about returns.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 13:21:59
@Dantrasy I had a nice long chat with Invision sales today, unfortunately the Direct Fit bulbs are one piece which will make it near impossible to fit an adaptor :Pout:

oh no.  :blubber:

Need to find a plan B now.

Thanks for the info. I hope the seller honours his word about returns.
Study them first when you get the bits and pieces, you never know :Good_luck: if they were H7's on the high beams like the GD's have you could have transferred them over  :Pout:

Other than that I can only suggest the previously mentioned JW units  :link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Model Evolution 4000 ? Projector Range ? Invision Sales (https://invisionsales.com/products/led-headlight-conversion-kit-model-evolution-4000-projector-range/) or the Narva one's I linked for mickd.

You'll need different dustcaps for the larger heat sink units from what I have picked up on with the PD info about the forum, GD's also require different caps.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 26, 2019, 14:11:41
I took some photo's of the LED's that I have fitted to my PD SR.

As you can see it is quite a tight fit, hence why I don;t have dust caps fitted
As the Std holders are quite large. I don;t think it helps having the cable come out from the rear like the ones that I have.

You can also see the ball bearing on the globe that clicks into a plastic holder that keeps the globe in place.
It also has the silicone seal when it does click in, that keeps out any dust..
Is it ideal??  No I don't think so. I think an LED globe with a rear fan would be better.
Then an aftermarket dust cap with a hole in the centre would be better.


(https://i.ibb.co/XjVrh6P/IMG-20190826-164159.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hLCJPrN)

(https://i.ibb.co/9tzVRVX/IMG-20190826-164234.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16hdHdV)

(https://i.ibb.co/0YDSWRZ/IMG-20190826-164310.jpg) (https://ibb.co/44mGDnM)

(https://i.ibb.co/YXvdY2j/IMG-20190826-164335.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W0SzqnK)

(https://i.ibb.co/sC5RVvF/IMG-20190826-164424.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yphPQn8)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 14:27:42
@Purplehazeffc would something like these work  :link: 2Pcs Universal Seal Cap Dust Cover 5 Sizes for Car Headlight LED HID Lamp XPT | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2Pcs-Universal-Seal-Cap-Dust-Cover-5-Sizes-for-Car-Headlight-LED-HID-Lamp-XPT/183748821441?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D978a8506fd0c4dd888af8340840003da%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D113814976243%26itm%3D183748821441%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2481888&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aec057b31-c803-11e9-a811-74dbd180449f%7Cparentrq%3Ace1377ef16c0aada6222919dffea9b17%7Ciid%3A1)

If the sizing is correct then there should be enough room to shove everything inside the boot, they'll work fine being enclosed.

I've got a set of these waiting  :link: 2Pcs 70mm Inner Dia Rubber Housing Seal Cap Dust Cover for Car LED Headlight WG 609876370981 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2Pcs-70mm-Inner-Dia-Rubber-Housing-Seal-Cap-Dust-Cover-for-Car-LED-Headlight-WG/254030369926?epid=6012004701&hash=item3b2563d486:g:k~sAAOSwp41bDnCp&frcectupt=true) and when I get around to fitting LED's I'll core drill the factory dustcaps and mount the boot from the inside, the GD has just enough room to place the plug and wiring in the housing before installing the bulbs...I hope :fingers:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 26, 2019, 14:41:34
Yeah Craig. Any of that type of aftermarket dust cover would more than likely work.

But in saying that. That area of the back of the lights is pretty well sealed away.

As most new cars there days, there is not a great deal of room between the back of the light fitting & the car.
I needed to do my wifes 2015 Kia Cerato headlights a cpl of weeks ago. The passenger side I could only just fit my hand in.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 26, 2019, 15:13:00
Yeah Craig. Any of that type of aftermarket dust cover would more than likely work.

But in saying that. That area of the back of the lights is pretty well sealed away.

As most new cars there days, there is not a great deal of room between the back of the light fitting & the car.
I needed to do my wifes 2015 Kia Cerato headlights a cpl of weeks ago. The passenger side I could only just fit my hand in.
Bugger, it's the passenger side for me as well that has limited space with the fuse box in the way :disapp:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: guest12451 on August 26, 2019, 23:17:03
Stumbled across thispretty interesting auto LED site (http://www.ledoauto.com/blog/) - it's a bit rough in that the author is clearly non-english speaker but the info is good and cover a few interesting areas e.g Which LEDs work in projector lens headlights (http://www.ledoauto.com/blog/index.php/2016/11/16/what-kind-of-led-headlight-fit-the-car-with-xenon-projector-lens/)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 27, 2019, 12:10:12
Just thought i would give a quick update on the cherry tuning LEDS headlights. Not too bad so far, have all bulbs changed over, and whiter light compared to halogen bulbs. Mine are most probably a cheap chinese variant, but they work, covers go on. Longest drive i have done in dark is 1.5 hours with no issues. They are a different fit compared to Purplehazeffc as shown below
(https://i.ibb.co/whPzCc2/led.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nMYLfPK)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 27, 2019, 12:43:16
Scott, They look like a better adaptor clip than what's available for the GD's.

Any pictures of them fitted :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 27, 2019, 12:50:18
Scott, They look like a better adaptor clip than what's available for the GD's.

Any pictures of them fitted
I will try to post some pictures tomorrow Craig in daylight, teeny bit scared out in garage with redback spider clan lurking in the dark :Shocked: :crazy2: :scared:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on August 27, 2019, 12:52:35
Scott, They look like a better adaptor clip than what's available for the GD's.

Any pictures of them fitted
I will try to post some pictures tomorrow Craig in daylight, teeny bit scared out in garage with redback spider clan lurking in the dark :Shocked: :crazy2: :scared:

I'm a bit like that with the huntsman and other spiders in my Mower shed..  :rofl:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 27, 2019, 14:19:43
Just thought i would give a quick update on the cherry tuning LEDS headlights. Not too bad so far, have all bulbs changed over, and whiter light compared to halogen bulbs. Mine are most probably a cheap chinese variant, but they work, covers go on. Longest drive i have done in dark is 1.5 hours with no issues. They are a different fit compared to Purplehazeffc as shown below
(https://i.ibb.co/whPzCc2/led.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nMYLfPK)

Now they are different to what I have..    Photo's is possible of whit the rear of the bulb looks like??
Like what type of heatsink design it has.
But once you fit the LED's & the whiter light. It's would be pretty hard to go back to halogens..

I do have these ordered from eBay.   Rather than being 2 sided. They are 4 sided..   :link: H7 CREE LED Car Headlight Hi or Low Beam Conversion Kit Bulbs 6500K 800W 80000LM | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-CREE-LED-Car-Headlight-Hi-or-Low-Beam-Conversion-Kit-Bulbs-6500K-800W-80000LM/142890400978?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

So should in theory give a better & brighter type of light.  I don't use my high beams a great deal.
But will get some LED's for them as well'
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 27, 2019, 14:33:03
800W and 80000Lm :D might want my sunnies on for them :cool: :snigger:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on August 27, 2019, 17:24:37
800W and 80000Lm :D might want my sunnies on for them :cool: :snigger:

 :Shocked:  yep.. Watch out you'll see me coming up behind miles away  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 28, 2019, 00:29:47
Aldi has these :
 :link: 7" Osram Chip Driving Lights and 22" Osram Chip Bar Light Set - ALDI Australia (https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-31-august/saturday-detail-wk35/ps/p/7-osram-chip-driving-lights-and-22-osram-chip-bar/)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: galixia on August 28, 2019, 00:56:47
Aldi has these :
 :link: 7" Osram Chip Driving Lights and 22" Osram Chip Bar Light Set - ALDI Australia (https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-31-august/saturday-detail-wk35/ps/p/7-osram-chip-driving-lights-and-22-osram-chip-bar/)

would love to see one of these complete kits fitted on the front of a I30 lol
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on August 28, 2019, 01:14:19
Now they are different to what I have..    Photo's is possible of whit the rear of the bulb looks like??
Like what type of heatsink design it has.
But once you fit the LED's & the whiter light. It's would be pretty hard to go back to halogens..

I do have these ordered from eBay.   Rather than being 2 sided. They are 4 sided..   :link: H7 CREE LED Car Headlight Hi or Low Beam Conversion Kit Bulbs 6500K 800W 80000LM | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-CREE-LED-Car-Headlight-Hi-or-Low-Beam-Conversion-Kit-Bulbs-6500K-800W-80000LM/142890400978?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

So should in theory give a better & brighter type of light.  I don't use my high beams a great deal.
But will get some LED's for them as well'

From what I've been watching thru several Youtube channels, the multiangle or 360* LED bulbs seem to be ineffective because you lose the central point inside the projector housing. Meanwhile with halogen bulbs, you have that and it leads to a better lighting out pattern.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 28, 2019, 02:58:43
Now they are different to what I have..    Photo's is possible of whit the rear of the bulb looks like??
Like what type of heatsink design it has.
But once you fit the LED's & the whiter light. It's would be pretty hard to go back to halogens..

I do have these ordered from eBay.   Rather than being 2 sided. They are 4 sided..   :link: H7 CREE LED Car Headlight Hi or Low Beam Conversion Kit Bulbs 6500K 800W 80000LM | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-CREE-LED-Car-Headlight-Hi-or-Low-Beam-Conversion-Kit-Bulbs-6500K-800W-80000LM/142890400978?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

So should in theory give a better & brighter type of light.  I don't use my high beams a great deal.
But will get some LED's for them as well'

From what I've been watching thru several Youtube channels, the multiangle or 360* LED bulbs seem to be ineffective because you lose the central point inside the projector housing. Meanwhile with halogen bulbs, you have that and it leads to a better lighting out pattern.

The JW Speaker Evolution 4000 are two sided at a right angle. Designed especially for protectors their ad says. So I don't know. You Tube wisdom says firing in opposite directions is better.

Regarding my purchase of JW Direct Fit, if the bulb is all one piece I might be able to mod the adapter to slip it round. One cut and twist might do it.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on August 28, 2019, 03:33:44
The JW Speaker Evolution 4000 are two sided at a right angle. Designed especially for protectors their ad says. So I don't know. You Tube wisdom says firing in opposite directions is better.

Regarding my purchase of JW Direct Fit, if the bulb is all one piece I might be able to mod the adapter to slip it round. One cut and twist might do it.

Have you received it yet? I'm still waiting for your outcome  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 28, 2019, 03:36:10
Aldi has these :
 :link: 7" Osram Chip Driving Lights and 22" Osram Chip Bar Light Set - ALDI Australia (https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-31-august/saturday-detail-wk35/ps/p/7-osram-chip-driving-lights-and-22-osram-chip-bar/)

would love to see one of these complete kits fitted on the front of a I30 lol
If there's a will,  there's a way  :lol:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 28, 2019, 04:42:30
Scott, They look like a better adaptor clip than what's available for the GD's.

Any pictures of them fitted

In daylight
(https://i.ibb.co/TYmzSrP/P8280372.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4KPBGJ4)

(https://i.ibb.co/PDJ10wK/P8280373.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qJhmVkK)

(https://i.ibb.co/mJyD5t8/P8280374.jpg) (https://ibb.co/G7MxQkT)

(https://i.ibb.co/tCdMF8k/P8280376.jpg) (https://ibb.co/w6vNjM3)

(https://i.ibb.co/Wn3wM8Z/P8280377.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BLPxQWb)

(https://i.ibb.co/fDFBbcc/P8280373-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3RdGwJJ)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 28, 2019, 05:39:33
Thanks for the photos Scott :)

They’re a neat fit for sure :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 28, 2019, 07:42:46
Curious,  probably mentioned somewhere,
If these beasties have fans on the rear,
how does it circulate fresh/cool air in a sealed unit?  :undecided:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 28, 2019, 09:50:18
The JW Speaker Evolution 4000 are two sided at a right angle. Designed especially for protectors their ad says. So I don't know. You Tube wisdom says firing in opposite directions is better.

Regarding my purchase of JW Direct Fit, if the bulb is all one piece I might be able to mod the adapter to slip it round. One cut and twist might do it.

Have you received it yet? I'm still waiting for your outcome  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Not yet. Probably next week.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on August 28, 2019, 09:55:16
Curious,  probably mentioned somewhere,
If these beasties have fans on the rear,
how does it circulate fresh/cool air in a sealed unit? 
Good question Mick, of which I cannot answer. Flux capacitor?? Also bear in mind the canbus/ballast resistor inside which warms up nicely too. Seems to work though  :whistler:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 28, 2019, 10:38:12
Curious,  probably mentioned somewhere,
If these beasties have fans on the rear,
how does it circulate fresh/cool air in a sealed unit? 
Good question Mick, of which I cannot answer. Flux capacitor?? Also bear in mind the canbus/ballast resistor inside which warms up nicely too. Seems to work though  :whistler:
Flux capacitor    :rofl: :rofl: :goodjob:
Just thinking that halogen get f-ing hot , have no fan.
Led brighter, same voltage,  less current used so ballast resistor  increases load to trick faulty globe detection,  does heat  then equal or exceed original values?
Given light is a by-product, do led produce more or same heat but draw less current due to its material  composition?   
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 28, 2019, 11:16:18
Just thinking that halogen get f-ing hot , have no fan.
Led brighter, same voltage,  less current used so ballast resistor  increases load to trick faulty globe detection,  does heat  then equal or exceed original values?
Given light is a by-product, do led produce more or same heat but draw less current due to its material  composition?
Mick, some info here  :link: How hot are LED light bulbs? ? LIFX.com (https://www.lifx.com/blogs/the-latest/19032975-how-hot-are-led-light-bulbs) explains some of the differences between halogen vs LED temperatures, not specifically on auto but covers general differences.

Auto differences referred to in this link  :link: How hot do LED headlight bulbs get? - Better Automotive Lighting (https://betterautomotivelighting.com/2016/11/12/how-hot-do-led-headlight-bulbs-get/)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on August 28, 2019, 12:45:59
Just thinking that halogen get f-ing hot , have no fan.
Led brighter, same voltage,  less current used so ballast resistor  increases load to trick faulty globe detection,  does heat  then equal or exceed original values?
Given light is a by-product, do led produce more or same heat but draw less current due to its material  composition?
Mick, some info here  :link: How hot are LED light bulbs? ? LIFX.com (https://www.lifx.com/blogs/the-latest/19032975-how-hot-are-led-light-bulbs) explains some of the differences between halogen vs LED temperatures, not specifically on auto but covers general differences.

Auto differences referred to in this link  :link: How hot do LED headlight bulbs get? - Better Automotive Lighting (https://betterautomotivelighting.com/2016/11/12/how-hot-do-led-headlight-bulbs-get/)
@CraigB
Thanks mate, 
Sometimes my brain is like a dog with a bone,
Other days it's  like ,
Its like the bone after the dog ate it  , CRAP ! 
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 28, 2019, 13:16:31
 :lol: :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 31, 2019, 03:31:56
In the event the JW Direct Fit H7 don't work out, I've been trying to research the JW Evolution 4000 H7 for projectors.

 :link: LED Headlight Conversion Kit ? Model Evolution 4000 ? Projector Range ? Invision Sales (https://invisionsales.com/products/led-headlight-conversion-kit-model-evolution-4000-projector-range/)

The spec sheet is useless. No dimensions, no way of knowing if the heat sink screws off.  I'm not sure what the box thing is either. The description suggests it's NOT a canbus module.

Not sure about the V shape. Why is it like that?

I'll send off a few emails. I'll report back here. 
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 31, 2019, 07:35:28
@Dantrasy I believe the locking ring and base are removable on the 4000 series, the box thing is part of the CANbus harness and the V shape is their new design especially for projector lens/beams.

I'm not sure on the sizes either at this stage, still looking.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 31, 2019, 07:53:08
These aren't the projectors but they're still H7 4000 series so sizing would be the same I reckon.

(https://i.imgur.com/nREJjIW.jpg)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on August 31, 2019, 09:53:45
That's a start. Thanks Craig.

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 03:45:32
I got the JW direct fit h7’s on Tuesday and they need an adapter to fit. I have some adapters on the way from stedi. Will update when I get them.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 01, 2019, 03:49:05
I got the JW direct fit h7’s on Tuesday and they need an adapter to fit. I have some adapters on the way from stedi. Will update when I get them.

Do the bulbs come apart so that you can fit the locking adapter behind the h7 ring?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 04:03:39
There’s a little tab thing that all h7 bulbs have that can come off but everything else is one piece. You can also adjust the direction of the LED chips.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 01, 2019, 04:11:14
ok, sounds good then. Thanks.

The h7 ring comes off (lifts up passed the leds I presume). Then the locking adapter goes on. Then the h7 ring goes back on.

I was worried the h7 ring was fixed in place/ attached to the body.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 04:18:47
Yeah the ring comes off past the leds so you can put the adapter on then the ring back.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 01, 2019, 06:33:22
Yeah the ring comes off past the leds so you can put the adapter on then the ring back.
That’s a bonus :goodjob2: InVision sales told me the other day the direct fit bulbs didn’t come apart :rolleyes:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 06:55:52
They don’t know their product then lol
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 01, 2019, 07:02:51
They don’t know their product then lol
Yes and I’ll be calling their sales manager tomorrow to confirm and re-educate  :evil:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 07:36:21

(https://i.ibb.co/r5SJZMT/A8-D3-CCEC-2-C6-D-4101-A1-EB-1520-CDEC58-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YfMGt8Y)
Now that iv worked out pictures ( I think ) this is what the bulb looks like taken apart. Also the built in CANbus works perfectly no errors on my dash when I tested them.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 01, 2019, 07:50:33
Thanks for the pic.

My JW Direct Fit H7 bulbs are due to arrive tomorrow.

I already have the locking adapters. I tested the adapters with a regular halogen and the bulb snaps into the adapter nicely. 

Will you remove the whole headlight to fit them? I think I will. I have some osram night breaker high beam halogens I want to fit too.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 07:55:22
Nah going to try and put them in leaving the headlight in place i changed the h7’s to osram cool blue intense with the headlights still in the car so hopefully the leds will be nearly as easy to fit.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 01, 2019, 11:12:48
Thanks for the pic Brendon :goodjob2: now I know the locking ring is removable I've ordered myself some :)

Greatwall parts on eBay has them for $112.50 currently  :link: JW Speaker H7 LED 6000K DIRECT FIT LED GLOBE - BUILT IN CANBUS pair 12-24V | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/183867183894)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Georgevagelas on September 01, 2019, 11:40:59
Dantrasy, when you will connect the bulbs into headlight can you please take some photos and upload them like a tutorial for noobies like me? It would be really useful..  :wink:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 01, 2019, 12:13:47

You got yours for a good price i paid $138.97 for mine.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 01, 2019, 12:49:56
You got yours for a good price i paid $138.97 for mine.
Best I could find at this stage :happydance:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 01, 2019, 12:58:30
Dantrasy, when you will connect the bulbs into headlight can you please take some photos and upload them like a tutorial for noobies like me? It would be really useful..  :wink:

Sure, I’ll take some pics and try to document the process. I’ll aim to do it next weekend.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: josh1990 on September 02, 2019, 00:43:16
Just ordered 2 sets of the direct fit from great wall parts - they accepted offer of $100ea for 2 pairs. May not do any better than $112.50 for one pair but doesn't hurt to try guys. Wifey not so impressed  :rofl:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 02, 2019, 04:22:51
BARGAIN !!  :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 02, 2019, 05:11:19
 :whsaid: :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: ricleo on September 05, 2019, 04:21:05

(https://i.ibb.co/r5SJZMT/A8-D3-CCEC-2-C6-D-4101-A1-EB-1520-CDEC58-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YfMGt8Y)
Now that iv worked out pictures ( I think ) this is what the bulb looks like taken apart. Also the built in CANbus works perfectly no errors on my dash when I tested them.

they are so small! looking forward to reviews and hopefully sample images of the light output/throw/pattern
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 05, 2019, 08:18:58

(https://i.ibb.co/516GZJx/109252-F4-DFD8-40-B6-9375-8-B5-E2-D022-ECC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JcKmZSF)
So does anyone know if these are %100 needed in the headlights? I had to take mine off the dust cover as that’s the only way the dust covers will go back on.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 05, 2019, 08:37:02
Pretty sure the material is reduce condensation in the light.
Time will tell.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: ricleo on September 05, 2019, 08:52:54

(https://i.ibb.co/516GZJx/109252-F4-DFD8-40-B6-9375-8-B5-E2-D022-ECC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JcKmZSF)
So does anyone know if these are %100 needed in the headlights? I had to take mine off the dust cover as that’s the only way the dust covers will go back on.

i think they can be removed, mine doesn't come with the extra attachment in the dust cover.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 05, 2019, 09:07:59
I couldn’t get the passenger side light in with the housing still in the car so I’m going to have to take the headlights out on the weekend, don’t really want to on a car that’s less then a month old but it looks easy so I’ll see on the weekend.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 05, 2019, 09:55:15
Should be able to slip the moisture pouch inside the housing somewhere hopefully  :undecided: mine doesn't have them on the covers but there are some pouches in the housing.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 07, 2019, 04:06:32
I've run into a snag while trying to fit the lights. 

What you see below is the after market locking adapter with the H7 ring from the jw lights. The ring lightly snaps into place, but will fall out of place very easily.

When fitting into the car's housing the ring isn't pressed up against the car. There's a 2-3mm gap.

So when fitting everything in place the H7 ring shifts out of place and the light wobbles. 

it would seem the original halogen was held in place by the 2 prong electrical connection. The LED light is not held in place by the electrical connection.

Any ideas?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 07, 2019, 04:48:22
You need to make a spacer  between the ring and headlight  :undecided: ,
Yes ?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 07, 2019, 04:59:07
Seems so.

Cut rings out of a Milo lid?

This is more than I was expecting.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 07, 2019, 05:51:27
 :link: Hyundai Kia LED Headlights Replacement H7 LED Bulb with Retainer Adapter - Lasfit Auto Lighting (https://www.lasfit.com/products/pro-se-series-custom-h7-led-headlight-bulb-adapter-retainer-holder-for-hyundai-kia)

This appears to be what I should have purchased.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 07, 2019, 07:38:51
Playing around with it some more, I discovered the bulb snaps tight into the adapter. The h7 ring however, can not fit back where it belongs. the bulb is now pushed forward a bit and the h7 ring hits the wide part of the bulb stopping it from going into its proper place on the adapter.

(https://i.ibb.co/Z1022qt/20190907-140635.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

(https://i.ibb.co/x5Zh0yD/20190907-140708.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

This is an option, but maybe not the best.

Ideally, we need to sandwich the adapter between the base of the bulb (where the heat sink starts) and the h7 ring. Some washers between the base and the adapter might be the answer. 

I found a rubber washer that holds everything in place tight. Just need to find a metal washer that will do the same thing. Or heat resistant rubber like o-ring with a wide edge.

First the washer goes on, that the adapter, then the H7 ring is pushed down and tighten with the tiny hex tool. Everything holds together solid. See this pic:

(https://i.ibb.co/LhF9hsp/20190907-142947.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 07, 2019, 07:47:44
Didn’t you get the same adapters as Brendon? He hasn’t mentioned them not fitting correctly  :confused:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: The Gonz on September 07, 2019, 07:56:51
I had similar challenges adapting my LED combo DRL blinkers. I managed to find a couple of big rubber washers and then kept the bases pressed in place with cantilevers made of coat hanger wire.

 :link: 2x B15S 42-LED Car Dual-Color Switchback White DRL Yellow Turn Signal Light ! | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-B15S-42-LED-Car-Dual-Color-Switchback-White-DRL-Yellow-Turn-Signal-Light/293198902932?hash=item4444043694:g:gJgAAOSwbEZbC3hL&LH_BIN=1&redirect=mobile)

Since heat is not an issue in my case, the next version adapter will be built on my future 3D printer.  :D

 :link: 2019 Anet A8 ONE/Two Color 3d Printer Prusa i3 ONE / Dual Extruder 22*22*24 lot | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2019-Anet-A8-ONE-Two-Color-3d-Printer-Prusa-i3-ONE-Dual-Extruder-22-22-24-lot/254285711937?hash=item3b349c0a41:m:mCykUGudObGeoVAGztoyf_A&redirect=mobile)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 07, 2019, 08:11:30
Didn’t you get the same adapters as Brendon? He hasn’t mentioned them not fitting correctly  :confused:

Not sure. Maybe @BrendonL is yet to discover this. Or maybe the go headlight fitting is slightly different to the n line.

I'm going to check Bunnings for a metal washer. 19mm inside diameter.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 07, 2019, 09:28:14
Mine are the same the lights only just sit in the adapter any slight pressure on the back of the bulb like snapping it into the connector dislodges the bulb from the adapter. Iv put the leds on the back burner for now till I can figure something out but there not a high priority.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 07, 2019, 10:02:36
A 49c M16 gal washer behind the adapter did the trick. It's about 2mm thick. I had to grind a tiny bit away to make the inside diameter a bit bigger.

This is a solid unit. Now I just have to tighten it with the leds at the right angle. That will be something for next weekend.


(https://i.ibb.co/k0vhhB4/20190907-165510.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XpMzzL7)


(https://i.ibb.co/KD0RgTk/20190907-165522.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dtW1v8q)


Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 07, 2019, 10:16:25
 :Agoodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 07, 2019, 11:14:46
:Agoodjob:
:whsaid:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on September 08, 2019, 01:44:58
I've run into a snag while trying to fit the lights. 

What you see below is the after market locking adapter with the H7 ring from the jw lights. The ring lightly snaps into place, but will fall out of place very easily.

When fitting into the car's housing the ring isn't pressed up against the car. There's a 2-3mm gap.

So when fitting everything in place the H7 ring shifts out of place and the light wobbles. 

it would seem the original halogen was held in place by the 2 prong electrical connection. The LED light is not held in place by the electrical connection.

Any ideas?

You have the same adaptors that I have.  Which I got from eBay:  :link: 2pcs H7 LED Bulbs Clip Holder Adapters Retainer Fit for Hyundai Elantra Tucson | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2pcs-H7-LED-Bulbs-Clip-Holder-Adapters-Retainer-Fit-for-Hyundai-Elantra-Tucson/153508405630?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)

But for mine to fit correctly. I had to cut away some of the adaptors so the H7 ring that came with the LED's could fit flush with the adaptors.
Then I just glued them in with superglue. They now sit there nice & stuck.  Then I can place the adaptors into the light housing.
Then fit the LED globes till they click in.   I am using a different LED globes ATM which are 4 sided:  :link: H7 CREE LED Car Headlight Hi or Low Beam Conversion Kit Bulbs 6500K 800W 80000LM | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-CREE-LED-Car-Headlight-Hi-or-Low-Beam-Conversion-Kit-Bulbs-6500K-800W-80000LM/142890400978?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)
Which I do prefer the spread of light from..   Photos below of how the adaptors look after modifying, with the previous LED's


(https://i.ibb.co/2gfbMmN/IMG-20190908-082600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wMxvQ3s)

(https://i.ibb.co/0hRD8hw/IMG-20190908-082610.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xJtCPJ4)

(https://i.ibb.co/fkNJFnF/IMG-20190908-082620.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pfKqwRw)

(https://i.ibb.co/DMjXQyZ/IMG-20190908-082648.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7p0cK5q)

(https://i.ibb.co/VY7M3K7/IMG-20190908-082741.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yFwgV3w)

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 08, 2019, 09:58:48
Nice work purplehaze.

I decided to test the drivers side (which is so much easier to access). The test shows I still have some working out to do.

Here at just the halogens:

(https://i.ibb.co/J2RhZrn/20190908-164519.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HYDJZG7)

And the JW bulb:

(https://i.ibb.co/JRfsQDb/20190908-164129.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fYhxvjK)

There's a void where the hot spot should be. Overall it looks wrong.

When fitted into the car you can easily see the prongs at the back. If they a perfectly vertical (one on top of the other) the leds will be firing left and right. So I think I got that part right.

Comparing the JW with the halogen the leds appears to be a little lower down. I think the whole led bulb needs to be further forwards 1-2mm. The only way to achieve that is to use a a much thinner washer.

Perhaps the Milo lid idea wasn't so crazy after all! 

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Haro on September 09, 2019, 00:34:41
Nice work lads.
I'm so glad someone else is going through this same mission haha.

I bought the NightEye branded LEDs as I've used them in other cars and they have been brilliant. They have little fans on the back.

I bought the same adaptors as listed above, then cut out the mid section to make the hole bigger to fit the rear cooling fins of the LED lamp. Then used the supplied locking ring to keep them in place.

Then the dustcover didn't fit so I have bought a pair of those universal slip on rubber boots that you can get online. Waiting for them to turn up.

For wiring, I just cut the old fitting off and attached some connectors to the wires which was simple enough.

The light spread is great on the passenger side but I think I may have misaligned the drivers side. So will work on that today as you can remove a screw on my lights and twist the led bit.

If they still look average I'm just buying some HIDS instead.

But as mentioned Ive used these in various cars so far and they have been great. Unsure why Hyundai needs to make life so difficult haha.
Sorry for lack of pics



Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on September 09, 2019, 02:48:24
Nice work purplehaze.

I decided to test the drivers side (which is so much easier to access). The test shows I still have some working out to do.

Here at just the halogens:

(https://i.ibb.co/J2RhZrn/20190908-164519.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HYDJZG7)

And the JW bulb:

(https://i.ibb.co/JRfsQDb/20190908-164129.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fYhxvjK)

There's a void where the hot spot should be. Overall it looks wrong.

When fitted into the car you can easily see the prongs at the back. If they a perfectly vertical (one on top of the other) the leds will be firing left and right. So I think I got that part right.

Comparing the JW with the halogen the leds appears to be a little lower down. I think the whole led bulb needs to be further forwards 1-2mm. The only way to achieve that is to use a a much thinner washer.

Perhaps the Milo lid idea wasn't so crazy after all!

I think you need to trim the adaptors like I have with mine.  As the LED is not going all the way into the projector housing.
The light spread on mine looks pretty good. Though I did have to raise the drivers side up. As it was to low.
I don't have a photo with my dual sided LED's. But this is with the 4 sided LED's I have in there now.


(https://i.ibb.co/wzf0Nyp/IMG-20190906-195157.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZM0L6dc)

(https://i.ibb.co/chpCSVy/IMG-20190906-195243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fdKnzLX)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 09, 2019, 03:16:33
@Purplehazeffc  is trimming the adapter designed to open it up to accommodate the heatsink.

With the JW bulbs, I have the opposite issue. The heatsink is small. It does not touch the rear of the adapter. That's why I added a metal washer.

the led test pic above has the leds firing left and right. And the led chips are almost in exactly the right spot (ideally they need to go forward 1-2mm). I'm surprised the result is so bad.

I believe the dark shape (where the hot spot should be) is the aluminum shaft of the led bulb. Unlike halogen, the led is not emitting light from the top/bottom, just left and right.

I next plan to simply hold the led bulb in place. Move it forward, back, twist left, right etc to see if I can get a proper spread of light. 
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on September 09, 2019, 04:52:07
I had similar challenges adapting my LED combo DRL blinkers. I managed to find a couple of big rubber washers and then kept the bases pressed in place with cantilevers made of coat hanger wire.

 :link: 2x B15S 42-LED Car Dual-Color Switchback White DRL Yellow Turn Signal Light ! | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-B15S-42-LED-Car-Dual-Color-Switchback-White-DRL-Yellow-Turn-Signal-Light/293198902932?hash=item4444043694:g:gJgAAOSwbEZbC3hL&LH_BIN=1&redirect=mobile)

Since heat is not an issue in my case, the next version adapter will be built on my future 3D printer.  :D

 :link: 2019 Anet A8 ONE/Two Color 3d Printer Prusa i3 ONE / Dual Extruder 22*22*24 lot | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2019-Anet-A8-ONE-Two-Color-3d-Printer-Prusa-i3-ONE-Dual-Extruder-22-22-24-lot/254285711937?hash=item3b349c0a41:m:mCykUGudObGeoVAGztoyf_A&redirect=mobile)

Does it turn out great? I want to do DRL in FD Trophy but couldn't find any suitable place to mount the aftermarket kit. This can be a great alternative.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on September 09, 2019, 04:58:26
Not to accommodate the heatsink no..   It's the way both of my LED's fit into the adaptors that come with the globes.
The double sided ones shown above. Have a ball bearing that clips into the adaptor that holds it in place.
That is then the piece that I then superglued to the PD adaptors I got from eBay. I did get a full spread of light from my dbl sided globes.
I'll get a photo tonight & post up in here.

With the 4 sides globes. The globe has little nubs on them that twist into the adaptors that I have also glued to the eBay adaptors.
Again I'll grab a photo of what they look like..

I have to agree, Hyundai with this design of globe fitment has made it not that easy to fit LED's in..
At this stage, Unless you get the kit from Cherry. You pretty have to make up something to fit them in..

I see your in Perth, not sure how close we are. But I'm more than happy for you to try my LED's

I think as your adaptors that came with the globes were to fit flush, And not like they are ATM. As there is the gap between the 2 adaptors.

(https://i.ibb.co/TWfYL13/20190907-165522.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrJzpY2)

They would fit better & would more than likely improve the spread of light.

(https://i.ibb.co/yqb5fgr/IMG-20190908-082600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m4MtDh3)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 09, 2019, 06:16:32
oh, I see. Thanks. I never would have thought of that.

In that case I'll add one more test - flip the H7 ring around so it's flat on top. 

Yes, I'm in Perth, SoR, near Safety Bay freeway exit.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 09, 2019, 07:06:38
Yes, I'm in Perth, SoR, near Safety Bay freeway exit.
Right near me :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on September 09, 2019, 07:10:49
Quote from: Dantrasy on 52 minutes  ago
Yes, I'm in Perth, SoR, near Safety Bay freeway exit.
Right near me

Only the best people live South of the River  :whistler: or maybe it is because the Southern Councils cant afford street lights and that's really why we all need better LED headlights  :twisted:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Purplehazeffc on September 09, 2019, 07:11:09
oh, I see. Thanks. I never would have thought of that.

In that case I'll add one more test - flip the H7 ring around so it's flat on top. 

Yes, I'm in Perth, SoR, near Safety Bay freeway exit.
Yes, I'm in Perth, SoR, near Safety Bay freeway exit.
Right near me :)

Slightly North from me.

Mandurah
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 10:46:04

(https://i.ibb.co/6bdDdb2/97-D76-EDA-8089-4-B13-83-F0-AF1-BD1921623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ctm2mtP)

(https://i.ibb.co/f8ZW8RY/56-D51-CDA-5731-400-B-9-D61-4-FA6-B9081202.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KNBgNZj)
This is how mine turned out. Dodgy install until I can do a proper one on the weekend.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 09, 2019, 11:09:17
Is that high or low beam  on the road ?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: The Gonz on September 09, 2019, 11:11:39
I had similar challenges adapting my LED combo DRL blinkers. I managed to find a couple of big rubber washers and then kept the bases pressed in place with cantilevers made of coat hanger wire.

 :link: 2x B15S 42-LED Car Dual-Color Switchback White DRL Yellow Turn Signal Light ! | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-B15S-42-LED-Car-Dual-Color-Switchback-White-DRL-Yellow-Turn-Signal-Light/293198902932?hash=item4444043694:g:gJgAAOSwbEZbC3hL&LH_BIN=1&redirect=mobile)

Since heat is not an issue in my case, the next version adapter will be built on my future 3D printer.  :D

 :link: 2019 Anet A8 ONE/Two Color 3d Printer Prusa i3 ONE / Dual Extruder 22*22*24 lot | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2019-Anet-A8-ONE-Two-Color-3d-Printer-Prusa-i3-ONE-Dual-Extruder-22-22-24-lot/254285711937?hash=item3b349c0a41:m:mCykUGudObGeoVAGztoyf_A&redirect=mobile)

Does it turn out great? I want to do DRL in FD Trophy but couldn't find any suitable place to mount the aftermarket kit. This can be a great alternative.
Good enough to be permanent. I'll post pictures on the weekend. :victory:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 09, 2019, 11:12:48

(https://i.ibb.co/6bdDdb2/97-D76-EDA-8089-4-B13-83-F0-AF1-BD1921623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ctm2mtP)

(https://i.ibb.co/f8ZW8RY/56-D51-CDA-5731-400-B-9-D61-4-FA6-B9081202.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KNBgNZj)
This is how mine turned out. Dodgy install until I can do a proper one on the weekend.
Looks good :goodjob2: do you remember what angle/rotation are the bulbs set at? will save me some time when I install mine :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 11:22:38
Is that high or low beam  on the road ?
Low beam.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 11:24:48

(https://i.ibb.co/6bdDdb2/97-D76-EDA-8089-4-B13-83-F0-AF1-BD1921623.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ctm2mtP)

(https://i.ibb.co/f8ZW8RY/56-D51-CDA-5731-400-B-9-D61-4-FA6-B9081202.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KNBgNZj)
This is how mine turned out. Dodgy install until I can do a proper one on the weekend.
Looks good :goodjob2: do you remember what angle/rotation are the bulbs set at? will save me some time when I install mine :)
My leds are pointing left and right.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 09, 2019, 11:26:23
Great, thanks :goodjob2:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 11:35:12
No problem  :goodjob2:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 09, 2019, 11:59:06
@BrendonL  looks good.

How did you attach the bulb to the adapter?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 12:23:08
@BrendonL  looks good.

How did you attach the bulb to the adapter?
Old superglue I just glued the h7 ring to the adapter. I doubt it’ll hold for long so I plan on trying some high temp cold weld from supercheap on the weekend.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on September 09, 2019, 12:48:21
@BrendonL  looks good.

How did you attach the bulb to the adapter?
Old superglue I just glued the h7 ring to the adapter. I doubt it’ll hold for long so I plan on trying some high temp cold weld from supercheap on the weekend.

Loctite 401 or 406 are like super glue but more permanent...  :cool:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 09, 2019, 12:50:07
@BrendonL  looks good.

How did you attach the bulb to the adapter?
Old superglue I just glued the h7 ring to the adapter. I doubt it’ll hold for long so I plan on trying some high temp cold weld from supercheap on the weekend.

Ok, thanks.

I’m going to keep trying the washer mod. Just need to find the right thickness so the chips are in the correct spot in the housing.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 13:22:36
@BrendonL  looks good.

How did you attach the bulb to the adapter?
Old superglue I just glued the h7 ring to the adapter. I doubt it’ll hold for long so I plan on trying some high temp cold weld from supercheap on the weekend.

Loctite 401 or 406 are like super glue but more permanent...  :cool:
Do you think the leds would get hot enough to melt the loctite?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on September 09, 2019, 22:57:37
@BrendonL  looks good.

How did you attach the bulb to the adapter?
Old superglue I just glued the h7 ring to the adapter. I doubt it’ll hold for long so I plan on trying some high temp cold weld from supercheap on the weekend.

Loctite 401 or 406 are like super glue but more permanent...  :cool:
Do you think the leds would get hot enough to melt the loctite?

I don't reckon. It's amazing stuff. A mate put me on to it a few years ago and pretty much everything I've ever used it on since has been a permanent repair. It's great stuff.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 09, 2019, 23:49:55
Awesome I’ll get some today and give it a go after work.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on September 10, 2019, 00:03:22
Awesome I’ll get some today and give it a go after work.

I've got the 401 and the 406 (which is supposed to be even better for plastic repair) but I think they are very much the same so either should be fine.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 10, 2019, 03:46:49
I got the 401 I’ll see how it goes this arvo.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 10, 2019, 08:50:14
So anyone looking to buy the jw speaker direct fit h7 don’t bother those with them already be very careful 1 of my bulbs just died
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 10, 2019, 09:02:11
So anyone looking to buy the jw speaker direct fit h7 don’t bother those with them already be very careful 1 of my bulbs just died
Faulty , replace or refund from seller.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 10, 2019, 09:11:35
So anyone looking to buy the jw speaker direct fit h7 don’t bother those with them already be very careful 1 of my bulbs just died
Faulty , replace or refund from seller.
Got them 3 weeks ago off eBay so hopefully the seller will replace or refund them.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 10, 2019, 09:38:26
So anyone looking to buy the jw speaker direct fit h7 don’t bother those with them already be very careful 1 of my bulbs just died
Faulty , replace or refund from seller.
Got them 3 weeks ago off eBay so hopefully the seller will replace or refund them.
Disappointing :disapp: They'll replace them no doubt, there is also a two year manufacturer warranty.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 10, 2019, 09:45:27
So anyone looking to buy the jw speaker direct fit h7 don’t bother those with them already be very careful 1 of my bulbs just died
Faulty , replace or refund from seller.
Got them 3 weeks ago off eBay so hopefully the seller will replace or refund them.
Disappointing :disapp: They'll replace them no doubt, there is also a two year manufacturer warranty.
I just read that on their eBay listing so I’ll be sending a message soon to get a replacement.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 10, 2019, 10:11:06
My direct fit JW's turned up this morning so I got straight to it :)

They actually fitted in reasonable easy on the GD using the suitable adaptors  :link: 2pcs H7 LED Headlight Bulb Holder Adapter For KIA K3/4/5 Hyundai Sonata 9 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2pcs-H7-LED-Headlight-Bulb-Holder-Adapter-For-KIA-K3-4-5-Hyundai-Sonata-9-/283578147515?hash=item42069322bb)

Only adjustment I had to make was the dust caps, another 2mm clearance and they would have screwed back on with no modifications but luckily I'd thought ahead expecting they would likely require some extra room and had small rubber boots here if needed.

The rubber boot mod would likely be suitable for the PD owners as well, a couple of these boots are what I used  :link: 2Pcs 70mm Inner Dia Rubber Housing Seal Cap Dust Cover for Car LED Headlight EB 609876370981 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2Pcs-70mm-Inner-Dia-Rubber-Housing-Seal-Cap-Dust-Cover-for-Car-LED-Headlight-EB-/264389386849?hash=item3d8ed5e261)

Core cut a 56mm hole in the dust caps
(https://i.imgur.com/TwI6JXt.jpg)

Insert the boot into the caps as shown, no glue required as they're a nice snug fit.
(https://i.imgur.com/ysIpWmU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y7sXoZS.jpg)

Gives me just enough clearance to the fuse box
(https://i.imgur.com/h6TCpmO.jpg)

Installed my Philips T10 LED parkers for a better colour match to the new JW low beams.
(https://i.imgur.com/qMc09Oc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YYSGya4.jpg)

Only briefly tested against the garage wall at this stage, waiting for night to roll in so will put another picture up later showing them...doesn't seem to matter which way the bulbs are rotated either from my quick test as the cut off lines are still horizontal.

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 10, 2019, 14:26:00
Some night shots, levels seem alright so I don't think I'll bother with any adjustments.

They're a little brighter than my halogen Narva Sapphire bulbs and a fair bit whiter.

(https://i.imgur.com/W44CW9Z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WPTdWRN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Qa6V8U0.jpg)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on September 10, 2019, 19:59:42
Good stuff Craig. Looks like a win to me.  :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 11, 2019, 02:55:14
@CraigB looks very good.

Are they fitted in a projector housing?

As for my attempts, I haven't had time to try anything in the car.

But I did try a washer alternative - an oblong piece of thin, but stiff, wire. Compared to the washer the chips are further forward and the whole unit is solid. Chip position matches a halogen filament. So the result should be better.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 11, 2019, 05:43:37
Are they fitted in a projector housing?
Yes, GD’s are projector low beam the same as PD’s, they just use a different adaptor.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 13, 2019, 13:00:52
Just ordered 2 sets of the direct fit from great wall parts - they accepted offer of $100ea for 2 pairs. May not do any better than $112.50 for one pair but doesn't hurt to try guys.
I just ordered another pair of JW direct fits from Great wall parts, for the high beams this time :)

Price has gone up to $125.99 so I thought I'd give your idea a go and offered $100 and they came back at $105, I'm happy with that :happydance:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 14, 2019, 04:58:24
I think I recognise the shopping center roof top pic. haha And the stretch of freeway south with no lights.

The passenger side went in and looked ok first try. 

But I've really struggled to get the drivers side to look ok. I've adjusted the bulb many many times. I keep getting dark spots or a strange lit up shape above the cutoff (which also appeared when the halogen were installed).

This is how looks now. The drivers side still has the lit up shape and a dark spot bottom right. I'm not sure if this is an issue.


(https://i.ibb.co/64vbfxF/20190914-114121.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vJsmKGk)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 14, 2019, 06:51:21
I think I recognise the shopping center roof top pic. haha And the stretch of freeway south with no lights.

The passenger side went in and looked ok first try. 

But I've really struggled to get the drivers side to look ok. I've adjusted the bulb many many times. I keep getting dark spots or a strange lit up shape above the cutoff (which also appeared when the halogen were installed).

This is how looks now. The drivers side still has the lit up shape and a dark spot bottom right. I'm not sure if this is an issue.


(https://i.ibb.co/64vbfxF/20190914-114121.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vJsmKGk)
I had a dark spot on my drivers side as well. Don’t know what causes it yet.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 14, 2019, 14:33:45
I think I recognise the shopping center roof top pic. haha And the stretch of freeway south with no lights.
Stockland shopping centre Baldivis, the road picture was on Mundijong rd :)

I hope you get the lights sorted out, I certainly don't have black spots with mine though it is a different model.

Do any of the other N Line owners get that white box above the drivers side cutoff :undecided: looks to be very clean lines, like it's supposed to be there :undecided:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 15, 2019, 02:45:28
There are three silver stripes inside the assembly adjacent to the projector lens. My guess is that one of these silver stripes is reflecting the light that creates the shape above the cut off. If you cover the stripes with your fingers the shape disappears. The shape appears with halogens, so yes, it must be a deliberate feature. Still, I don't like it very much.   

I can adjust the led bulb so that the shape above the cut off disappears, but the trade off is very bad dark spots, right where the hot spot should be. If I adjust so that the shape is present, the best I can achieve is 'less bad' dark spots. Either way the result against the wall is unsatisfactory and not even worth testing on the road.

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dantrasy on September 15, 2019, 02:45:51
I'll leave the halogens in for now.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 15, 2019, 04:53:18
Either way the result against the wall is unsatisfactory and not even worth testing on the road.
You might see a different result when testing at the correct distance, 7 to 10 meters from a wall works best to see if some adjustments are required to the beam angle.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on September 17, 2019, 02:49:11
Managed to take a quick shot of my PD low beam LEDS from Cherry Tuning down some dodgy back street.  :sweating:
(https://i.ibb.co/FWQS5tQ/IMG-5482.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PY27c82)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 17, 2019, 05:45:26
@Crustycottage Scott the left side of the beams seem extremely high :undecided: also that artefact above the right beam :confused:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Haro on September 17, 2019, 05:57:36
Look fine to me.
Left side is supposed to kick up more.




Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 17, 2019, 06:09:42
Look fine to me.
Left side is supposed to kick up more.
Not that much, roughly 6 inches above the right beam is where the left should be at 10 meters, the angle of the shot against the corner doesn’t give the best view of the left beam though.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Haro on September 17, 2019, 06:12:59
True.
There are plenty of 'how to' guides online that show the correct heights of the beam and at what distance from the wall etc.




Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 17, 2019, 06:19:13
There is a model specific guide on headlight adjustments in the owners manual  :wink:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Crustycottage on September 17, 2019, 11:40:45
@Crustycottage Scott the left side of the beams seem extremely high  also that artefact above the right beam

yes that "artefact" is strange but more like Dantrasy oblong block. I have not adjusted any heights ever myself. However, I did ask Hyundai to ensure they were correctly adjusted at last service in July as even the upgraded halogens bulbs were average on unlit roads.  :crazy2:

Your lights Craig seem bit brighter and more evenly spread.

I don't mind the left beam lighting up the gutter, at least a chance to see drunk pedestrians or kangaroos. will RTFM read the f*cking manual for further adjustments.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: josh1990 on September 18, 2019, 09:32:13

(https://i.ibb.co/0sLDtQj/IMG-20190918-175209.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XYP28VZ)

High beams are in, plenty of room. Low beams, the adaptor (one linked previously suitable for GD) needs spacing - trip to the big green shed tomorrow to suss out a solution.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 18, 2019, 11:18:32
High beams are in, plenty of room. Low beams, the adaptor (one linked previously suitable for GD) needs spacing - trip to the big green shed tomorrow to suss out a solution.
Are you sure you've twisted the adaptors far enough to click in? mine were very tight just on the last few mm till you actually feel them click in properly, especially the passenger side as access is much more restricted.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: josh1990 on September 18, 2019, 11:59:18
The adaptors are flopping around on the bulb itself, not even tried to put them into the housing. Got these adaptors -  :link: Pair of H7 Car LED Headlight Bulb LED Adapter Holder LED Adapter Socket Base AZ | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113549590458)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 18, 2019, 12:37:36
The adaptors are flopping around on the bulb itself, not even tried to put them into the housing. Got these adaptors -  :link: Pair of H7 Car LED Headlight Bulb LED Adapter Holder LED Adapter Socket Base AZ | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113549590458)
Well they will be loose until they secure into the housing, the problem with the ones you've linked there are that they have no rear upright tabs so you have something to grab onto to twist into place.

These are the type I have, you can clearly see the rear tabs you'll need to be able to lock them in  :link: H7 LED Bulb Holder Adapter Base For KIA Sorento Hyundai Veloster Sonata Tucson 9 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-LED-Bulb-Holder-Adapter-Base-For-KIA-Sorento-Hyundai-Veloster-Sonata-Tucson-9/173620888161?hash=item286c9c8261:g:kHoAAOSwMxJb3ROj)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: josh1990 on September 18, 2019, 20:53:17
The adaptors are flopping around on the bulb itself, not even tried to put them into the housing. Got these adaptors -  :link: Pair of H7 Car LED Headlight Bulb LED Adapter Holder LED Adapter Socket Base AZ | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F113549590458)
Well they will be loose until they secure into the housing, the problem with the ones you've linked there are that they have no rear upright tabs so you have something to grab onto to twist into place.

These are the type I have, you can clearly see the rear tabs you'll need to be able to lock them in  :link: H7 LED Bulb Holder Adapter Base For KIA Sorento Hyundai Veloster Sonata Tucson 9 | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-LED-Bulb-Holder-Adapter-Base-For-KIA-Sorento-Hyundai-Veloster-Sonata-Tucson-9/173620888161?hash=item286c9c8261:g:kHoAAOSwMxJb3ROj)

Ah ok, I see the missing tabs. I'll give them a go even though they're loose.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on September 23, 2019, 13:06:13
My JW's for the high beams arrived today, only a quick test up the street at the moment so I'll road test them properly next time I'm doing a night run.

They do seem to throw a good distance, the trees at the end of the street are a good 130 meters away.

Low beam
(https://i.imgur.com/vpHRtgv.jpg)

High beam
(https://i.imgur.com/VM1a0zc.jpg)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on September 23, 2019, 21:49:19
Looks good Craig.. The factory LED's in my new car are a highlight. Excuse the pun..
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: mickd on September 24, 2019, 04:39:24
Perfect,  should be able to the reflection of the eyes of all the roadside critters .
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on September 26, 2019, 09:30:30
Finally got my replacement h7’s today now I can give them a good few days testing.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: quankino on October 11, 2019, 02:27:22
Narva is rolling out new gen 2 kits. Saw it on SCA sales  :link: Narva | Gen II Performance L.E.D Globes and L.E.D Signalling Globes (https://www.narva.com.au/blogs/press-release/2019/Sep/17/gen-2-led-conversion-kits)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on October 11, 2019, 03:04:54
Narva is rolling out new gen 2 kits. Saw it on SCA sales  :link: Narva | Gen II Performance L.E.D Globes and L.E.D Signalling Globes (https://www.narva.com.au/blogs/press-release/2019/Sep/17/gen-2-led-conversion-kits)

Good find! Thanks for sharing.  :goodjob:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Georgevagelas on October 17, 2019, 17:37:05
Hello! I have read all the posts of this thread and I would like to know if anyone changed alogen bulds to led and is still satisfied without any problems.. Can you please suggest a good set of led bulbs that fit well without any car modifications at pd model? Thank you..
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Ohthatsnasty on October 19, 2019, 11:29:50
I have fitted led headlights to my PD SR, i have designed (Extended) and 3D printed my own replacement dust covers if you are still looking?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: xiziz on October 19, 2019, 12:10:02
I put led on my high beams a few weeks ago, needed to modify the light housing a little, remove some plastic so the bulb would give the correct light pattern. Very happy with the change, nice, bright and uniform light colour. And it lights up the roadsides a lot better, reach is about the same but much better illumination.

I used Ledson LED 11G Extreme Focus bulbs.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Georgevagelas on October 19, 2019, 13:06:51
I put led on my high beams a few weeks ago, needed to modify the light housing a little, remove some plastic so the bulb would give the correct light pattern. Very happy with the change, nice, bright and uniform light colour. And it lights up the roadsides a lot better, reach is about the same but much better illumination.

I used Ledson LED 11G Extreme Focus bulbs.


What is your car model mate?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on October 19, 2019, 13:11:26
What is your car madel mate?
I’d expect what’s written in his signature  :)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Georgevagelas on October 19, 2019, 14:21:58
What is your car madel mate?
I’d expect what’s written in his signature  :)

That's why I asked again because Im looking for information for PD model (this thread is for PDs too)..  Maybe he has two Hyundai models..
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on October 19, 2019, 21:21:53
What is your car madel mate?
I’d expect what’s written in his signature  :)

That's why I asked again because Im looking for information for PD model (this thread is for PDs too)..  Maybe he has two Hyundai models..

The Ioniq is sort of a PD i30 with EV or Hybrid drive train, so a lot of shared components. I wonder if one of our Ioniq owners, maybe @xiziz or @Shambles could investigate /compare to see if the headlights are shared.  :cool:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Shambles on October 19, 2019, 22:11:02
My lamps are single bulb BiXenon with mechanical shutters - the housing is not shareable with the PD series at all.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: xiziz on October 19, 2019, 23:02:12
@Georgevagelas I don't think the light housing or reflector is the same (pd has lens projector high beams I think?) but for the sake of brands that provide a good and legal light pattern it can be helpful to know that the Ledson LED bulbs are the real thing. :)

Housing in Ioniq EV is LED low beams in projector lenses and HB3 9005 Halogens in standard high beam reflectors. (there is a full halogen setup on the base model though).
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on October 20, 2019, 04:42:39
Cheers guys.. there's my theory out the window..  :spitty: :Pout:
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Georgevagelas on November 02, 2019, 16:47:15
I found @xiziz led bulbs  :link: LEDSON LED headlight bulbs 11G Xtreme Focus (https://www.diodhuset.se/en/led-headlight-bulbs-ledson-11g-xtreme-focus) (H7) and they look interesting. Lumiled ZES LED with build-in Canbus, 4500 Lumens, 3 years warranty etc for 110 euros. They offer some bulb holders too.  :link: Lamphållare H7 för LED Kia & Hyundai (V1) - Lamphållare för LED - LED - Hel- och halvljus - Diod & Xenon till Bil (https://www.diodhuset.se/diod-xenon-till-bil/hel-och-halvljus/led/lamphallare-for-led/lamphallare-for-led-kia-hyundai-v1-kia-carens-sonata-8-hyundai-mistra-alandtra-nya-azera) and  :link: Lamphållare H7 för LED Kia & Hyundai (V2) - Lamphållare för LED - LED - Hel- och halvljus - Diod & Xenon till Bil (https://www.diodhuset.se/diod-xenon-till-bil/hel-och-halvljus/led/lamphallare-for-led/lamphallare-for-led-kia-hyundai-v2-kia-k3-h4-k5-sonata-9). Which one you think fits at i30 PD (low beams) because none of them refers to i30? Also, bulbs' length is 82mm. Will they fit inside headlights or should I buy new dust covers?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: ntebis on November 05, 2019, 12:21:04
I found @xiziz led bulbs  LEDSON LED headlight bulbs 11G Xtreme Focus (H7) and they look interesting. Lumiled ZES LED with build-in Canbus, 4500 Lumens, 3 years warranty etc for 110 euros. They offer some bulb holders too.  Lamphållare H7 för LED Kia & Hyundai (V1) - Lamphållare för LED - LED - Hel- och halvljus - Diod & Xenon till Bil and  Lamphållare H7 för LED Kia & Hyundai (V2) - Lamphållare för LED - LED - Hel- och halvljus - Diod & Xenon till Bil. Which one you think fits at i30 PD (low beams) because none of them refers to i30? Also, bulbs' length is 82mm. Will they fit inside headlights or should I buy new dust covers?


Δεν έχει ιδιαίτερη σημασία αν δεν λέει για το i30 pd. Σημασια έχει το βύσμα και το i30 εχει Η7, οπότε τα περισσοτερο θα χωράνε. Σίγουρα θα μπορεις να βρεις κατι στο σκρουτζ .

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Doesn't matter that they dont list i30, the PD uses the H7 so almost all of them should fit.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: xiziz on November 11, 2019, 08:20:42
@Georgevagelas I bought the extended dust covers just to be safe, they are rubber ones that fit outside the grooves. Same store I bought from. :)

Might be some 3D printable ones too if you know someone with a printer.

H7 are centered so only depth should be a possible issue, if you take out one of the current bulbs and measure the distance from the holder to the cap, how far is it? Mine had good clearance on all sides except top because the socket is off center with H3.

Also, don't forget to align the bulbs vertically, makes a huge difference to the light pattern.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Georgevagelas on November 16, 2019, 17:20:38
Hello! I just fit led bulds with external canbus at low beams! I am very satisfied with the result but I have a question. After start/stop the leds are flashing for half second and then back to normal! Is this normal for our car?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: xiziz on November 18, 2019, 08:53:37
I'd guess it's a voltage drop when the engine reignites(as is normal when the load on the 12v rail increases), the Halogens are slow to respond so the slight dimming might not be noticed. LEDs are immidiate so they will turn off if they get to little voltage, if the voltage fluxuates around the minimum voltage of the bulbs they would flash.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Lee17 on April 25, 2020, 09:48:46
Hi Guys,

I've been searching on google how to swap out the normal lights for a pair of LEDs on my i30 SR PD. But I had troubles trying to fit the LED bulbs into the housing. Has anyone got around to the issue?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: BrendonL on May 07, 2020, 14:47:06
You need an adapter to put the bulb in the housing you can get them from online from stedi or iilumo.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Dazzler on May 07, 2020, 20:26:52
Welcome Lee,

A couple of threads you might find interesting. That discuss this issue or include links that do...

 :link: LED Number Plate and Interior Lights (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=48523.0)

 :link: PD high beam(HB3's) upgrade query (https://www.i30ownersclub.com/forum/index.php?topic=55528.0)

Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Tommy369 on August 08, 2020, 01:33:22
I purchased these  :link: Novsight a500-n26 car led projector type headlights bulb d1 d2 h7 h11 9005 9012 90w 12000lm 6500k replace for xenon hid Sale - Banggood.com (https://www.banggood.com/NovSight-A500-N26-Car-LED-Projector-Type-Headlights-Bulb-D1-D2-H7-H11-9005-9012-90W-12000LM-6500K-Replace-for-Xenon-HID-p-1536516.html?rmmds=myorder&ID=517841&cur_warehouse=CN)

Would these adaptors work with those bulbs?
 :link: H7 (LED) - KIA, HYUNDAI, OTHERS– iilumo (https://www.iilumo.com/products/h7-led-kia-hyundai-others)
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2020, 04:22:20
I purchased these  :link: Novsight a500-n26 car led projector type headlights bulb d1 d2 h7 h11 9005 9012 90w 12000lm 6500k replace for xenon hid Sale - Banggood.com (https://www.banggood.com/NovSight-A500-N26-Car-LED-Projector-Type-Headlights-Bulb-D1-D2-H7-H11-9005-9012-90W-12000LM-6500K-Replace-for-Xenon-HID-p-1536516.html?rmmds=myorder&ID=517841&cur_warehouse=CN)

Would these adaptors work with those bulbs?
 :link: H7 (LED) - KIA, HYUNDAI, OTHERS– iilumo (https://www.iilumo.com/products/h7-led-kia-hyundai-others)
At 6000 lumen per bulb they’re way to bright for low beam head lights :eek:

The adaptors look correct though.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Tommy369 on August 08, 2020, 06:51:11
Will they likely run too hot and run the risk of melting the housing? I suspect they pulled that 6000 lumen figure out of thin air however. I plugged them in and they didn't throw up a CANBUS error which is a good sign.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2020, 06:55:29
Will they likely run too hot and run the risk of melting the housing?
I couldn’t say sorry :Dunno:

I suppose if the heat sink/fans are on the outside of the housings it would be better.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Tommy369 on August 08, 2020, 08:28:18
They have fans on the bases but obviously not gonna get a massive amount of air circulation with the dust caps on. I think the easiest option might be to flog these off on ebay and just buy the Cherry kit
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2020, 08:36:16
I recently posted a link in another similar topic and can highly recommend these  :link: H7 JW Speaker LED 6000K DIRECT FIT LED GLOBE - BUILT IN CANBUS pair 12-24V | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H7-JW-Speaker-LED-6000K-DIRECT-FIT-LED-GLOBE-BUILT-IN-CANBUS-pair-12-24V/184382916903?hash=item2aee140927:g:XPEAAOSwFWhfKgxK&frcectupt=true)

I run them in my GD, H7 x 4 for high and low and they're great, better quality than the Cherry's and they don't have fans that require exterior circulation or run the risk of a fan not working.
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: Tommy369 on August 08, 2020, 09:20:59
Do they still require some sort of adaptor or do they fit in the original base?
Title: Re: i30 PD active LED headlights
Post by: CraigB on August 08, 2020, 09:22:43
All LED's will require an adaptor if they're secured with the locking power plug.

Pinched a link from another topic, adaptors for low beam should be these  :link: H7 (LED) - KIA, HYUNDAI, OTHERS– iilumo (https://www.iilumo.com/products/h7-led-kia-hyundai-others) for PD owners
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