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turbo or compressor
« August 20, 2014, 16:36:12 »
Hi' what'u think about turbo from i30 crdi 1.4 to i30 1.4 petrol? or compressor from another car? It's feasible?


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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #1 : August 20, 2014, 19:04:56 »
The cost would be uneconomical to upgrade the 1.4 petrol to a turbo.. The diesel turbo wouldn't be suitable for a petrol engine in my opinion...

Upgrade the performance and then you put a strain on other components and really should upgrade brakes and clutch etc...

Sorry, just being honest...  :-[
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #2 : August 20, 2014, 19:53:09 »
The only way to do it effectively and reliably would be to purchase a Hyundai 2ltr turbo crate engine $6000  http://www.hyundaiusa.com/about-hyundai/news/Corporate_HYUNDAI_ANNOUNCES_NEW_CRATE_ENGINE_PROGRAM_FOR_38-LITER_V6-20131105.aspx

You wouldn't able to build a turbo engine for that price ( with warranty ) so it's a bargain imo and as Dazzler mentioned you would then need the upgrade other parts such as Brakes, Gearbox, heavier rated front suspension.

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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #3 : August 20, 2014, 20:45:04 »
Impossible to use the Diesel turbo IMO. The turbo uses VVT Variable Vane Technology, which receives info from the ecu and throttle sensor to set the correct vane angle. Simply too hard to do this. Add to this, a significant increase in fuel usage and stress on the motor.

Sorry. :(

If you really need to make changes, best to go to a speed shop for advice.
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #4 : August 20, 2014, 21:09:10 »
Another option to look into and with fuel benefits would be a low boost Vortech supercharger kit, this would be a better option imo.

There are small ones made for the VW golf and such so like Phil mentioned it is something to talk to a speed shop about.

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« Reply #5 : August 20, 2014, 23:56:07 »
I'd love to see you do something but id be surprised if the benefits outway costs and downtime. Unless you can do it all yourself I wouldn't be surprised to see the total cost blow past $8-10k
I think it is pointless trying to adapt a turbo that is designed to match a particular engine. Better off getting a custom kit made to suit.
Supercharged is better anyway (my biased opinion)
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #6 : August 21, 2014, 12:49:05 »
The topic had got my mind ticking so I decided to start doing some homework :)

The best option I've come across after many hours of research is a Sprintex supercharger but the closest option I can match it to so far is for a Honda Jazz 1.5ltr, the fitment is low boost so requires no engine modifications with a 20Pft increase in torque and 30Hp for $2995 :link: Sprintex - Superchargers and Supercharger Systems | Honda Jazz

Not to bad I don't think and in a few years when the warranty is out I'll strongly consider this to add a little extra joy into my Hundie, I prefer superchargers to turbos as their more efficient with less maintenance - less heat  and better fuel economy :cool:
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« Reply #7 : August 21, 2014, 16:23:02 »
So it was more profitable to make a full exhaust system.
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #8 : August 21, 2014, 18:38:39 »
Exhaust system :confused: Super Chargers "blowers" work through forced induction ( intake manifold ), turbo's work with exhaust.

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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #9 : August 21, 2014, 20:17:52 »
The correct answer is, buy a car with the proper level of performance you desire.

When modding one change leads to another and so on and you will spend far more than its worth and may not end up with something you are happy with anyway. Not to mention insurance issues and even making the vehicle unroadworthy since certain mods will need engineering approval.

Regarding the crate engine option, these are for the rear wheel drive genesis platform. It may not fit into the fwd i30.



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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #10 : August 21, 2014, 20:38:32 »
The correct answer is, buy a car with the proper level of performance you desire.

When modding one change leads to another and so on and you will spend far more than its worth and may not end up with something you are happy with anyway. Not to mention insurance issues and even making the vehicle unroadworthy since certain mods will need engineering approval.

Regarding the crate engine option, these are for the rear wheel drive genesis platform. It may not fit into the fwd i30.
The 3.8ltr is rear wheel drive but we are talking about the 2ltr which is a east west engine, there's also a 1.6ltr turbo veloster engine available but I cant find the link.

"EDIT" that link does discuss the rear wheel drive trains sorry, cant find the 1.6ltr link that I've seen before :neutral:

Regarding the modding debate... as you can see on the website no further engine modifications are required because of the low boost requirement and installing one of these on any engine will still be roughly $7000 cheaper than trying to by an already equipped turbo vehicle from the factory.

 
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #11 : August 21, 2014, 20:57:46 »
Another point I forgot to cover was the legality, because of the structure of the product and low boost these super chargers produce they retain all the correct emissions control features and are totally legal, once installed the vehicle is supplied with a certificate from Sprintex that the installer or yourself takes to transport and licensing and the engineering certificate is signed off on.

This info was all supplied to me from Mark ( head sales ) Sprintex in Malaga WA 9262 7222, unfortunately they haven't yet designed a manifold and electrical components to suit the i30 yet but they're hoping to have something in the near future :D
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #12 : August 23, 2014, 04:51:33 »
But I can't change this car, I'm in love with him :D you know what I mean
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #13 : August 23, 2014, 04:53:23 »
So go talk with a performance shop and see what they can do and for how much.
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #14 : August 24, 2014, 14:07:42 »
Thanks guys for response :)
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Re: turbo or compressor
« Reply #15 : August 24, 2014, 16:19:53 »
If you want to go diy, you can get a Toyota supercharger and fiddle about with that:

:link: TRD - Superchargers

My brother in law built an engine using a standard toyota supercharger and toyota water intercooler which worked well. The engine was powered with a third part ecu and the whole thing went very well. I say went because its currently running a turbo and goes even better than with it did with the supercharger and I do believe he retained the water intercooler which sits neatly on top the engine.
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