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Steering Saga
« June 14, 2017, 00:18:52 »
My 2009 Hatch is just coming up to 100,000klms and a while back, to resolve a clunking noise, the steering bush was replaced. Itís been fine since.
Recently though, on a drive back from Brisbane I noticed a very slight tendency for the steering to sort of ďtugĒ slightly in the straight ahead position. This is actually pretty hard to describe.

Itís only noticeable (so far) in excess of about 90 kph.

So, picture a straight road. No real need to move the steering wheel but suddenly thereíll be a very slight but clearly obvious, tug on the wheel. Weíre not talking about pulling the car off line here but there IS a slightly discernible shift in the wheel under your hands.
You could almost suggest it is just normal steering correction on a straight but uneven road surface, cause by a slight dip or hollow in the road. Because of the occasional EPS issue reported on here, I admit to being a little bit paranoid about this.

So, my thinking is going in three directions.

1/ a developing problem with the EPS.

2/ a worn steering component which is allowing a tiny bit of play which is being countered by the EPS.

3/ Iím imagining things (but Iím not).

I canít find any worn components including the two joints under the dash but it really needs to be up on a 4 poster hoist to be sure.
This is nothing like the worn bush which was only replaced last year anyway, less than 10,000 klms ago.

I might be trading in sooner rather than later.

So, I'd appreciate any feedback from @cruiserfied , @nzenigma  and @tw2005


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Re: Steering Saga
« Reply #1 : June 14, 2017, 02:03:21 »
Mate, I don't think you are imagining it, 1&2 are possibilities. The uni joints under the dash don't do much work, but they become prime suspects when that bush starts knocking.
What happens if you switch the ESP off?
If the twitch ceases it may be worth checking that the ESP / the steering column, has been centred correctly.
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« Reply #2 : June 14, 2017, 03:08:28 »
I'll try turning ESP off, but as no work has been done on the car since last year,  amd the steering was cemtered then by Fulcrum,  I don't think that's the cause.
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Re: Steering Saga
« Reply #3 : June 14, 2017, 13:05:05 »
Have you replaced tyres or one tread deeper than other or pressures different?

Just my thoughts
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« Reply #4 : June 14, 2017, 14:15:52 »
Have you replaced tyres or one tread deeper than other or pressures different?

Just my thoughts
As part of my checking process, I rotated the tyres, checked pressures and also  disconnected th battery for an hour.
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« Reply #5 : June 14, 2017, 17:22:56 »
I'll try turning ESP off, but as no work has been done on the car since last year,  amd the steering was cemtered then by Fulcrum,  I don't think that's the cause.

Expected as much. So try the ESP off and we can rule it in or out. Good luck.
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« Reply #6 : June 14, 2017, 18:19:37 »
I'll try turning ESP off, but as no work has been done on the car since last year,  amd the steering was cemtered then by Fulcrum,  I don't think that's the cause.

Expected as much. So try the ESP off and we can rule it in or out. Good luck.
Tried that. No luck.
I will try it again on the highway but I'm sure it didn't change anything.
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« Reply #7 : June 14, 2017, 19:34:05 »
Just re-read post 1. Not relevant but surprised that you got 7 years (and 90,000km) out of the steering bush ( that is the internal one in the column????)  Was it done previously? It seems to be age that kills them.
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« Reply #8 : June 14, 2017, 20:27:34 »
Just re-read post 1. Not relevant but surprised that you got 7 years (and 90,000km) out of the steering bush ( that is the internal one in the column????)  Was it done previously? It seems to be age that kills them.
Yep. That's the one.
Only that one replacement.
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