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MODIFYING OR DETAILING YOUR I30 => TYRES | WHEELS | BRAKES => Topic started by: Dazzler on December 02, 2018, 10:59:23

Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 02, 2018, 10:59:23
I've now done over 42,500 kilometres in the SR. I would probably make 50k with all 4 original tyres (just). However,  they are noisy and one in particular is making a thunk, thunk noise at coasting speeds on smooth bitumen.

After some research I'm probably going to go with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 at $210 each after $100 cash back offer. These are what the new N line is coming with as standard. I can get Pirelli Cinturato P7 for $201  which are also highly rated. But the Michelin are worth the extra $36 I think.

I didn't consider Diamondbacks  :rofl: :rofl: @The Gonz
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: The Gonz on December 02, 2018, 11:02:59
I didn't consider Diamondbacks    @The Gonz
:crazy1:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 02, 2018, 11:09:41
Pilot Sport 4's are what I'll be getting next as well Dazz :goodjob2:

I think your current tyres are the same as what I've got, I've done 45k on them already and think I'll still get another 30k out of em, are yours wearing evenly? seems odd they've worn so quick as they're rated at about 80k life :confused:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 02, 2018, 11:17:23
Pilot Sport 4's are what I'll be getting next as well Dazz :goodjob2:

I think your current tyres are the same as what I've got, I've done 45k on them already and think I'll still get another 30k out of em, are yours wearing evenly? seems odd they've worn so quick as they're rated at about 80k life :confused:

Yeah. I guess I must drive harder than I realised. I used to only get 30k out of tyres. Got 75k out of Calais ones!
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: beerman on December 02, 2018, 22:06:40
I was hoping to get close to 100k out of the ones on the late i40.

They still looked new at 62500 when she was murdered.
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mickd on December 03, 2018, 02:26:55
I was hoping to get close to 100k out of the ones on the late i40.

They still looked new at 62500 when she was murdered.
:rip:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 03, 2018, 02:57:57
I bit the bullet and ordered 4 Michelins @ $210 each from Local Dunlop Super Dealer Tyre Solutions. He seems like a good guy and he came in straight away at the lowest price I found on the web (tyresales.com were $215 each) He expects to get them in late this week or early next. Looking forward to getting them on!

Equivalent to 10+ massages!  :Pout:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 03, 2018, 04:44:28
That’s a reasonable price Dazz :goodjob: using they’re around $230-$240, could have bough Winrun’s for $65 each :eek: :faint: :snigger:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 03, 2018, 04:49:29
That’s a reasonable price Dazz :goodjob: using they’re around $230-$240, could have bough Winrun’s for $65 each :eek: :faint: :snigger:

Yeah, there's a $100 cashback until xmas I think for 4 that makes the difference.   :goodjob:

Yeah it was a hard decision out of the Winruns or the Michelins. I had Michelin tyres on my 3rd car. A new Fiat 128 3p hatch. I also had Michelin Primacy LC on one of my hybrids which I was very happy with.  :victory:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mickd on December 03, 2018, 09:11:41
WOW, winrun's make Gonz's Diamondbacks look dear  :lol:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 04, 2018, 20:28:05
I'm really looking forward to getting the exact same Michelin tyre fitted in the next week or so!  :happydance: I'll post some honest feedback once I've had a play.  :goodjob:
@Dazzler Are the new Michelins EL or XL? I see on Tyroola the EL are $200 but Jax Tyres have the XL (eco fuel saving) ones for $235.

Tyre sales don't mention the extra lettering :confused:

@CraigB You made me inquisitive, so I checked out Tyroola. The closet fitters to me were Launceston and Legana (both 100 kilometres away) and Fitted price including freight etc.. was over $1000 for four! I'm only looking at $840.

When I go to the Michelin website there is only one standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyre (no mention of EL or XL) There is a Pilot Sport 4S which is a semi track tyre (quite a bit more expensive I think)

Funny, it doesn't specifically mention eco tyre credentials for the Pilot Sport on their site either.  :Dunno:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Surferdude on December 04, 2018, 23:05:13
It's interesting how the tyre industry has changed over the years. advertising wise.


I had a hand in developing the "Buy 4, pay for 3"offer when I was at Goodyear.

The dealers were dead against it. Until we sat down and went through the figures relating to how it would work.
Firstly it had to be demonstrably genuine or risk the ACCC coming down hard.
We provided posters and counter cards which explained for customers, exactly how it worked so there could be no confusion.


Sure, the odd dealer tried to "massage" it to his advantage. But we ran a series of mystery shops both on the phone and in person over the years which soon sorted out the cowboys.

Other dealers with different brand loyalties hated it and took every opportunity to run it down to potential buyers.

But it worked immensely well, especially since we only ran it once a year.

These days. Tyrepower, Tyres for You (Yokohama), Bridgestone and Toyo all offer the same thing.

One of that group was among the first to follow us but their dealers were rorting the system seriously badly. ACCC got involved pretty quickly.

I'm sure there is still the odd one "trying it on" but in general, if you're looking for tyres, it's a good deal.
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 05, 2018, 02:24:56
@CraigB You made me inquisitive, so I checked out Tyroola. The closet fitters to me were Launceston and Legana (both 100 kilometres away) and Fitted price including freight etc.. was over $1000 for four! I'm only looking at $840.

When I go to the Michelin website there is only one standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyre (no mention of EL or XL) There is a Pilot Sport 4S which is a semi track tyre (quite a bit more expensive I think)

Funny, it doesn't specifically mention eco tyre credentials for the Pilot Sport on their site either.  :Dunno:
I see Bob Jane tyres are offering that deal you got with the $100 cash back, their Michelin’s are listed as XL.

The 4S are nice (and expensive) and standard fitting for Lamborghini- Ferrari, they don’t come in 18’s to fit ours anyway, 19” is the minimal and they’re also extra light tyres which give a huge weight benefit of around 3kg per tyre just on the smallest 19’s.

Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 05, 2018, 03:15:45
@CraigB You made me inquisitive, so I checked out Tyroola. The closet fitters to me were Launceston and Legana (both 100 kilometres away) and Fitted price including freight etc.. was over $1000 for four! I'm only looking at $840.

When I go to the Michelin website there is only one standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyre (no mention of EL or XL) There is a Pilot Sport 4S which is a semi track tyre (quite a bit more expensive I think)

Funny, it doesn't specifically mention eco tyre credentials for the Pilot Sport on their site either.  :Dunno:
I see Bob Jane tyres are offering that deal you got with the $100 cash back, their Michelin’s are listed as XL.

The 4S are nice (and expensive) and standard fitting for Lamborghini- Ferrari, they don’t come in 18’s to fit ours anyway, 19” is the minimal and they’re also extra light tyres which give a huge weight benefit of around 3kg per tyre just on the smallest 19’s.

I was actually heading to Bob Janes for that deal when I drove past Tyre Solutions and thought I'd give a local Family run business a shot.  :goodjob:

@Surferdude

Thanks for that Trev. The Bridgestone Adrenalin RE003 are on that deal ( "Buy 4, pay for 3" ) at the moment which equated to something like $169 per tyre for 4 which was tempting.  They get some good reviews on line but there were several reporting uneven wear and noise like I'm getting with the Kumhos so I decided to go the dearer option (not like me!)  :eek: :crazy1: :faint:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Purplehazeffc on December 06, 2018, 01:45:02
@CraigB You made me inquisitive, so I checked out Tyroola. The closet fitters to me were Launceston and Legana (both 100 kilometres away) and Fitted price including freight etc.. was over $1000 for four! I'm only looking at $840.

When I go to the Michelin website there is only one standard Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyre (no mention of EL or XL) There is a Pilot Sport 4S which is a semi track tyre (quite a bit more expensive I think)

Funny, it doesn't specifically mention eco tyre credentials for the Pilot Sport on their site either.  :Dunno:
I see Bob Jane tyres are offering that deal you got with the $100 cash back, their Michelin’s are listed as XL.

The 4S are nice (and expensive) and standard fitting for Lamborghini- Ferrari, they don’t come in 18’s to fit ours anyway, 19” is the minimal and they’re also extra light tyres which give a huge weight benefit of around 3kg per tyre just on the smallest 19’s.

I was actually heading to Bob Janes for that deal when I drove past Tyre Solutions and thought I'd give a local Family run business a shot.  :goodjob:

@Surferdude

Thanks for that Trev. The Bridgestone Adrenalin RE003 are on that deal ( "Buy 4, pay for 3" ) at the moment which equated to something like $169 per tyre for 4 which was tempting.  They get some good reviews on line but there were several reporting uneven wear and noise like I'm getting with the Kumhos so I decided to go the dearer option (not like me!)  :eek: :crazy1: :faint:

Did your car come with Kumhos as standard Daz??  If so what model ??
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 06, 2018, 04:45:53
Did your car come with Kumhos as standard Daz??  If so what model ??
I think Dazz meant Hankook :undecided: I’m sure he’s mentioned that his tyres were the same as mine last time he was over this way.
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 06, 2018, 04:58:52
Did your car come with Kumhos as standard Daz??  If so what model ??
I think Dazz meant Hankook :undecided: I’m sure he’s mentioned that his tyres were the same as mine last time he was over this way.

Yes. SOrry @Purplehazeffc got confused. Same factory, different door I believe.  :evil:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Purplehazeffc on December 06, 2018, 06:00:43
Cheers for the clarification.
I did think that all SR's came with Hankook Ventus prime 2's for the factory. 
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Blazorax on December 06, 2018, 06:09:27
Equivalent to 10+ massages! 

17 x 1hr massage session :)  Unless you want to give me 7 and you can have 10
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mickd on December 06, 2018, 06:11:44
Equivalent to 10+ massages! 

17 x 1hr massage session :)  Unless you want to give me 7 and you can have 10

You him to give you 7 massages ???   :eek:  :rofl:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Blazorax on December 06, 2018, 06:14:08
Equivalent to 10+ massages! 

17 x 1hr massage session :)  Unless you want to give me 7 and you can have 10

You him to give you 7 massages ???   :eek:  :rofl:

Darn this is truely the time I bring out that phrase i use often - English is my second language - I meant all that saving he can pay for 7 massage session for me and the rest he can spend on himself.

 :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 06, 2018, 07:21:27
Equivalent to 10+ massages! 

17 x 1hr massage session :) 

Depends on the sort of massages or how long. I'll leave it at that. :cool:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mickd on December 06, 2018, 08:08:09
Equivalent to 10+ massages! 

17 x 1hr massage session :)  Unless you want to give me 7 and you can have 10

You him to give you 7 massages ???   :eek:  :rofl:

Darn this is truely the time I bring out that phrase i use often - English is my second language - I meant all that saving he can pay for 7 massage session for me and the rest he can spend on himself.

 :crazy1: :crazy1: :crazy1:

All good mate, I know what you meant.  :goodjob:
Just got in first at making a play on the words, or  "taking the piss" as Aussies say.  :cool:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: beerman on December 07, 2018, 01:19:19
Equivalent to 10+ massages! 

17 x 1hr massage session :) 

Depends on the sort of massages or how long. I'll leave it at that. :cool:

and perhaps how happy they end?  :whistler:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 10, 2018, 11:26:46
Ok, so I got the new Michelin PS4's fitted today and the noise has gone. Michael at Tyre Solutions said there was a bit of a nick in one of the old tyre that could have been causing the noise.

He suggested I run 38 PSi minimum to reduce the risk of tyre or wheel damage with 40 series tyre. I hate to admit that @CraigB was right (for once)  :whistler: :winker:

Anyway, at 38 PSi cold 40/41 hot these new tyres still seem one step (at least) quieter than the Hankooks at lower pressure 34/35 PSi cold, which I ran them at to reduce tyre noise.

I also feel even with the higher pressure they seem to ride softer  :crazy1: (less harsh over corrugations) Steering response on a winding road also feels a little better. Loving them so far after around 60 kms of mixed driving.  :victory:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 10, 2018, 12:24:40
He suggested I run 38 PSi minimum to reduce the risk of tyre or wheel damage with 40 series tyre. I hate to admit that @CraigB was right (for once)  :whistler: :winker:
It's alright Dazz, I'm used to being ignored :snigger:

Glad to hear the benefits of the new tyres :goodjob2: I'm looking forward to when I get mine...I might have to try and wear them out quicker :Drive:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mickd on December 11, 2018, 05:44:22
He suggested I run 38 PSi minimum to reduce the risk of tyre or wheel damage with 40 series tyre. I hate to admit that @CraigB was right (for once)  :whistler: :winker:
It's alright Dazz, I'm used to being ignored :snigger:

Glad to hear the benefits of the new tyres :goodjob2: I'm looking forward to when I get mine...I might have to try and wear them out quicker :Drive:
Title: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 11, 2018, 07:55:51
@mickd

Did you mean to add something to that last post?  :confused:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 11, 2018, 08:05:30
My friend who has a 300+ KW modified Skoda Octavia had a test drive of my SR with the new tyres which he had recommended to me.  Even as a passenger I could feel the benefit of the extra grip and the good response to steering input. He loved the feel of them too.  :cool:

Without doing actual db readings I'm still convinced they are quieter than the Hankooks. They still roar a little bit on the coarsest bitumen but it is better than it was. Considering I'm running about 3 PSi higher pressures I'm also amazed that they feel more compliant (less harsh) on broken surfaces. Crazy but obviously good.  :goodjob2: :goodjob:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: mickd on December 11, 2018, 08:36:44
@mickd

Did you mean to add something to that last post?  :confused:
SURE DID !   :rofl:
Can't remember what I was going to add now though  :lol:  :rolleyes:  :disapp:  FFS.
( gotta laugh - usual causes no doubt )
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 13, 2018, 08:32:54
Sorry to bang on about the the Michelin PS4's but after a couple of hundred kilometres of driving on them in very mixed conditions (wet and slippery today) they are sensational.

My mate was so impressed with his test drive he bought an SR just ordered a set of PS4's for his daily driver (A Kia Cerato Si sedan)

I reckon they make a half a point difference to my rating of the SR. SO I reckon comparing the SR with all the cars I've driven and owned I would have rated it an 8 out of 10 on the Hankooks. With the Michelins I reckon it is now an 8.5 and clearly the best car I've ever owned.

The tyre noise at its worst is now acceptable, which I definitely wouldn't have said before the change.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 13, 2018, 09:23:17
They're definitely one of the best tyres out there, back in September 2017 was when I first started looking at and recommending the PS4's and reviews have been positive ever since :goodjob2:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 13, 2018, 09:48:15
They're definitely one of the best tyres out there, back in September 2017 was when I first started looking at and recommending the PS4's and reviews have been positive ever since :goodjob2:

Now Mark Webber and Darryl Bailey have endorsed them they should really take off!  :snigger:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: CraigB on December 13, 2018, 09:55:57
 :lol:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Jeff70 on December 14, 2018, 23:32:29
Wow!!! Thanks for the mini review on the Michelin's Dazz.
I now know what my next tyre choice will be.

Don't know when though because I've had my SR 18 months and only covered 2500Ks.
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2018, 01:48:32
Wow!!! Thanks for the mini review on the Michelin's Dazz.
I now know what my next tyre choice will be.

Don't know when though because I've had my SR 18 months and only covered 2500Ks.

Cheers Jeff! You certainly aren't going to wear it out! I've done that much in 10 days a few times!

Must catch up for a chin wag next time I'm in Lonny (get up these fairly often)  :goodjob:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Purplehazeffc on December 15, 2018, 04:22:07
 And from what I have read....

The new i30 N-Line that is replacing the SR.   Will come with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 as standard....

Looks like a win win on the tyre front for the car..

Pete
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4
Post by: Dazzler on December 15, 2018, 04:37:26
And from what I have read....

The new i30 N-Line that is replacing the SR.   Will come with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 as standard....

Looks like a win win on the tyre front for the car..

Pete

Yes, I saw that. It is really well suited to the i30.  :victory:
Title: Re: Replaced Tyres on my PD SR with Michelin Pilot Sport 4 (More feedback)
Post by: Dazzler on March 03, 2019, 02:16:42
Think I've now done about 5000 kilometres since swapping to the Michelins. I just had a complimentary follow-up wheel balance and Alignment by Tyre Solutions here in Devonport. Highly recommended by me (and John Bowe) to anybody who needs tyres on the North West Coast of Tasmania.

Firstly a warning! You will change your driving style with these tyres. We live on a 3 kilometre winding rural road and I now drive it much more aggressively. Since I've had them I haven't had one hairy moment.  :Touch: They are just that predictable.  I'm pretty certain they have increased my fuel consumption slightly though but not sure how much is driving more aggressively and how much is the tyre itself.

My second choice if I hadn't got these was the popular Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE003 which my Daughter had on her R34 Skyline and recently put on her Focus ST.

They were around $200 cheaper per set at the time and anyone who knows me well will know I don't pay out more than I have to usually. BUT, as they say you soon forget about the extra cost after the event. I'm thinking I might forget by 2025...

As I've said previously the SR was already possibly the best overall handler in its class/price range so I am surprised how much better it is with the Michelins.

The other crazy thing I have previously alluded to is that despite running 2 PSi more than the Hankooks (36 PSi V 34 PSi cold) they feel more compliant. A little more insulated/ less harsh and slightly quieter too.

So, in summary I strongly recommend that SR owners who can afford to, pay the extra for these tyres when the originals require replacement.

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