N Line for Australia...

Purplehazeffc · **September 06, 2018, 15:35:08**

As the title says. Looks like the N Line is pretty much confirmed.
Pricing is going to be the biggest hurdle here. Otherwise options would take it close the the I30N itself.

Who would be interested? Will it only be offered on new cars??

Hyundai i30 N Line to launch with more noise, Michelin tyres | CarAdvice

UX305 · **Reply #1: September 06, 2018, 23:12:41**

looks wise i really really like it (better looking than current PD2, inside and of course outside). if it has the 1.6 turbo, offered in manual or 7-8 speed torque converter, and the latter priced around current SRP, I would certainly be interested to trade up in a few years...

Dazzler · **Reply #2: September 06, 2018, 23:31:30**

Quote from: UX305 on September 06, 2018, 23:12:41

looks wise i really really like it (better looking than current PD2). if it has the 1.6 turbo, offered in manual or 7-8 speed torque converter, and the latter priced around current SRP, I would certainly be interested to trade up in a few years...

Yeah, I like the slightly revised front with the horizontal DRLS too. I will most likely be offered as a manual and DCT. They haven't been marrying the 1.6T with the torque converter Auto. I doubt they will now. Unfortunately (or fortunately) for existing SR owners I am sure it will be somewhere between the SR and the N in price. There is over 10K between a manual SR and a manual N, so my guess is the N line enhancements would carry maybe a 4K premium.. (similar to what the Prem over base SR does.) I might be wrong, but I seldom admit it.

beerman · **Reply #3: September 07, 2018, 00:53:29**

They might slip the 8 speed box into it, but I reckon it would be easier to stick with the 7 speed DCT.

Barbarulo · **Reply #4: September 07, 2018, 14:16:41**

I'm confused. So this is something between the SR and the current N? I thought they were touting the N as a true performance sports car - wouldn't this dilute the brand?

Dazzler · **Reply #5: September 07, 2018, 23:54:47**

Quote from: Barbarulo on September 07, 2018, 14:16:41

I'm confused. So this is something between the SR and the current N? I thought they were touting the N as a true performance sports car - wouldn't this dilute the brand?

It is just a marketing exercise. Due to the big reaction to the N they (rightly) see an opportunity to bring in something with a few "N" inspired mods (mostly cosmetic) to boost sales further. If it is priced between the SR and N it shouldn't affect resale of either hopefully.

UX305 · **Reply #6: September 10, 2018, 07:09:47**

hyundai marries turbo engine with 8-speed torque converted in the US (and so does VW there) if i'm not mistaken... it may be a thing in the US market but i like the smoothness and ease of torque converters and kinda hope they're made available with the turbos in Oz too... although, i have to admit i never tested the hyundai DCT on the SRs so I am not that well informed (from what i read here it is great). i only tried VW DSG and didn't like it (city test drive).

CraigB · **Reply #7: September 10, 2018, 07:43:07**

Quote from: UX305 on September 10, 2018, 07:09:47

hyundai marries turbo engine with 8-speed torque converted in the US (and so does VW there) if i'm not mistaken... it may be a thing in the US market but i like the smoothness and ease of torque converters and kinda hope they're made available with the turbos in Oz too... although, i have to admit i never tested the hyundai DCT on the SRs so I am not that well informed (from what i read here it is great). i only tried VW DSG and didn't like it (city test drive).

From all reports I've read the 8 speed is a DCT box, no torque converter on performance and higher optioned models.

Dazzler · **Reply #8: September 10, 2018, 09:13:53**

Quote from: CraigB on September 10, 2018, 07:43:07

Quote from: UX305 on September 10, 2018, 07:09:47
hyundai marries turbo engine with 8-speed torque converted in the US (and so does VW there) if i'm not mistaken... it may be a thing in the US market but i like the smoothness and ease of torque converters and kinda hope they're made available with the turbos in Oz too... although, i have to admit i never tested the hyundai DCT on the SRs so I am not that well informed (from what i read here it is great). i only tried VW DSG and didn't like it (city test drive).
From all reports I've read the 8 speed is a DCT box, no torque converter on performance and higher optioned models.

UX305 could be correct... Found this.

https://www.powertech.co.kr/en/product/rearwheel-8speed.do

As used in the Genesis G70 Etc..

and this one for the Sonata and Tucson (in the USA)

https://www.powertech.co.kr/en/product/frontwheel-8speed.do

CraigB · **Reply #9: September 10, 2018, 10:01:49**

Interesting, though neither of those articles seem to be for the i30, the first link is for rear wheel drive models only and second link is for a larger engine front wheel drive in the Sonata and Tucson.

The N when released with DCT next year is reportedly going to have the 8spd wet DCT so I'd expect a similar match up on the higher end i30 models to improve those fuel economy spec's.

UX305 · **Reply #10: October 24, 2018, 13:53:43**

Hyundai launches i30 N Line model in S. Korea

"Randomly" learned that i30 N Line has been released in Korea today (and since i30s for Australia are the Korean-made ones, not Czech-made...). Judging from the short article alone, looks like it's SR, but with N styling. I like.

Dazzler · **Reply #11: December 02, 2018, 10:29:08**

I have it on good authority the N Line is going to replace the SR in Australia. It loses BSM and Rear Cross Traffic alert and rear Fog light bit gets a few cosmetic exterior and interior tweaks as per below.

CraigB · **Reply #12: December 02, 2018, 10:55:47**

@Dazzler where's the below

Dazzler · **Reply #13: December 02, 2018, 11:14:51**

Quote from: CraigB on December 02, 2018, 10:55:47

@Dazzler where's the below

It might be above in your case. I have most recent posts at the top.

CraigB · **Reply #14: December 02, 2018, 11:19:55**

Thanks

Dazzler · **Reply #15: December 02, 2018, 19:31:41**

He's a copy of the Bulletin as shared on our Facebook Forum.

It's a bit hard to read unless you print it out.

beerman · **Reply #16: December 02, 2018, 22:26:16**

Bold move, the SRs have been selling themselves, and getting plenty of praise for level of safety gear too....

I can see the reviews now, no rear cross traffic or blind spot detection.....

The N premium loses a fair bit of kit and gains very little.

Pappy · **Reply #17: December 04, 2018, 04:16:31**

It's a shame the SR replacements are losing some safety equipment when most manufacturers are adding more and more.
I wonder who decided what to remove just to keep costs down.

Also, it's about time the manual versions were equipped with this gear too.

Dazzler · **Reply #18: December 04, 2018, 04:31:32**

Quote from: Pappy on December 04, 2018, 04:16:31

It's a shame the SR replacements are losing some safety equipment when most manufacturers are adding more and more.
I wonder who decided what to remove just to keep costs down.

Also, it's about time the manual versions were equipped with this gear too.

The BSD has been a bit troublesome with error messages in the SR, I gather the cross traffic alert might work from the same module, so I'm thinking they see it as a way of reducing the number of warranty calls.

Apparently because the autonomous cruise doesn't work easily with a manual box this is why the manuals don't get the radar behind the grill which I'm guessing controls several of these other features as well.

cazlar · **Reply #19: December 04, 2018, 05:33:45**

Personally, I think the new front with the new DRLs may look nicer, but will have to look at the rest of the interior/exterior styling changes in the flesh.

The loss of rear fogs doesn't matter to me, but I really like and use both the blind-spot and rear-cross-traffic systems on my SR. I've had zero problems with them so far.

Overall, if the price ends up going up while losing these, I'd rate it as a step backwards...

CraigB · **Reply #20: December 04, 2018, 06:33:04**

I think I'd prefer the new model with all the gimmicks removed, was driving for many years without all these electrical systems to help me drive, heck I don't even use the cruise control I've got as it actually causes higher fuel usage.

If it was possible to get one without electric windows I'd even go for that

Dazzler · **Reply #21: December 04, 2018, 08:13:30**

The rear cross traffic alert is a very handy feature once you've had it. Especially for someone who has reduced neck movement due to a medical condition.

If I didn't have Blind Spot Monitoring I would probably get some of these as recently fitted to a Corolla by a friend. They are adjustable and work very well.

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One of the big pluses with the N Line is the better tyres. Michelin Pilot Sport 4's are getting rave reviews. They have to be better than the Kuhmos (Kumhos are not terrible but a bit noisy and I wouldn't call them a premium or performance tyre)

I'm really looking forward to getting the exact same Michelin tyre fitted in the next week or so!

I'll post some honest feedback once I've had a play.

CraigB · **Reply #22: December 04, 2018, 09:34:30**

Quote from: Dazzler on December 04, 2018, 08:13:30

I'm really looking forward to getting the exact same Michelin tyre fitted in the next week or so! I'll post some honest feedback once I've had a play.

@Dazzler Are the new Michelins EL or XL? I see on Tyroola the EL are $200 but Jax Tyres have the XL (eco fuel saving) ones for $235.

Tyre sales don't mention the extra lettering

Dazzler · **Reply #23: December 04, 2018, 09:43:41**

Quote from: CraigB on December 04, 2018, 09:34:30

Quote from: Dazzler on December 04, 2018, 08:13:30
I'm really looking forward to getting the exact same Michelin tyre fitted in the next week or so! I'll post some honest feedback once I've had a play.
@Dazzler Are the new Michelins EL or XL? I see on Tyroola the EL are $200 but Jax Tyres have the XL (eco fuel saving) ones for $235.

Tyre sales don't mention the extra lettering

I don't know to be honest. I'll find out on friday or monday!

CraigB · **Reply #24: December 04, 2018, 09:49:58**

Thanks, be interesting to know what the other letters mean and if they're all classed as Eco type

mayby the EL and XL lettering might be related to which factory has produced them

Dazzler · **Reply #25: December 04, 2018, 10:35:21**

Quote from: CraigB on December 04, 2018, 09:49:58

Thanks, be interesting to know what the other letters mean and if they're all classed as Eco type mayby the EL and XL lettering might be related to which factory has produced them

Mine are $235 each less $25 ($100 cash back for four) so hopefully XL

Purplehazeffc · **Reply #26: December 05, 2018, 01:23:08**

Here is a pretty good review of the Pilot 4's Wet & dry running.. They do look like a very good tyre..

Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2. The differences tested and explained - YouTube

The EL or XL markings are just the load rating for the tyre..
Though I can't see any difference between the XL or EL

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beerman · **Reply #27: December 05, 2018, 02:21:32**

I reckon they have deleted it so they can give it back in an 'upgrade' about this time next year.

There will probably be enough keen to get into them initally, and they can sell the surpless SRs to those who want it.

Buy a large number of Srs and keep the N-lines a bit scarce and away you go.

CraigB · **Reply #28: December 05, 2018, 02:31:39**

Quote from: Purplehazeffc on December 05, 2018, 01:23:08

Here is a pretty good review of the Pilot 4's Wet & dry running.. They do look like a very good tyre..
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 vs Pilot Sport 4 S vs Cup 2. The differences tested and explained - YouTube

The 4S are nice but starting at 19” so they wouldn’t fit which is just as well with the price