Post by: chris_i30gd on February 05, 2018, 21:42:44
it's a few days that I have noticed a difficulty of the engine to turn on in the mornings when is cold. Now it the mornings the temperature outside is -3 to +3. I think that maybe the glow plugs of my i30 diesel 2013 start to worm out but I am not sure. The battery of the car is one year old and is good condition. Also the car's engine turn on easily in the afternoon. Have you experience this problem and have u ever changed glow plugs?
Also it does not appear any orange glow plug icon on the screen that stays for some seconds to be sure for the problem.
I will appreciate your experience in this issue - problem.
Regards!
Post by: The Gonz on February 06, 2018, 06:04:48
Post by: mickd on February 06, 2018, 07:20:40
Hi, Chris. The orange dashboard indicator is slaved to current flow in the glow plugs, which might be suggesting that the glow plugs are not getting the current to 'glow'.
Is there are specific fuse @The Gonz ?
Post by: The Gonz on February 06, 2018, 07:50:38
Is there are specific fuse @The Gonz ?I've never needed to look, but I'll see what I can find.
Post by: The Gonz on February 06, 2018, 08:01:04
Post by: chris_i30gd on February 06, 2018, 15:45:28
Post by: Asterix on February 06, 2018, 18:34:23
My mistake in description of the problem. On the dashboard the glow spark icon appear for a sec and it diisaper. But it does not stay after the engine starts. So the car does not indicate problem in the glow sparks. But the morning start is difficult and it takes 3-4 secs for the car to start!
You never get that inducation in the dash about the glow plugs. If the car is difficult to start and it then run rough for a few seconds it's very likely one or more glow plugs is dead.
Post by: chris_i30gd on February 09, 2018, 20:39:40
in the cold days of winter, will need new glow plugs. Cost near 70euro
Post by: The Gonz on February 09, 2018, 21:41:30
Post by: Dazzler on February 09, 2018, 23:39:49
Post by: chris_i30gd on February 10, 2018, 11:08:39
+ 35euro for both front brembo brake pads
and 30euro for the work to test and change all the previous :)
About the glow plugs, the i30 gd don't have and icon that shows the problem when they are burned.
So can understand that you have all 4 burned glow plugs if the car int he cold does not turn on easily
and when is turned on it smell from wrong burn of the engine is bad :)
Post by: rnblade on March 21, 2018, 07:07:26
I’ve recently changed the battery and it still is sluggish to start. Tried the double glow plug warm technique and then it eventually starts.
Post by: Dazzler on March 21, 2018, 09:35:21
It might seem a silly question but are they easy to change? I don’t want to be shelling out over £120 here, to be smashed with fitting charge as well??
I’ve recently changed the battery and it still is sluggish to start. Tried the double glow plug warm technique and then it eventually starts.
Yes and no. Usually they come out easily enough but apparently there are a couple of tricks to it including I think a warm engine and a good spray of crc or wd40 a few hours before trying. We had one member @Asterix who is an experienced technician and he had a couple that wouldn't come out. He ended up needing a new head. Not his, the one on the engine. :snigger:
Post by: rnblade on March 21, 2018, 09:59:58
Many thanks for the answer. So it might be prudent to get a garage to do them in case I snap one.It might seem a silly question but are they easy to change? I don’t want to be shelling out over £120 here, to be smashed with fitting charge as well??
I’ve recently changed the battery and it still is sluggish to start. Tried the double glow plug warm technique and then it eventually starts.
Yes and no. Usually they come out easily enough but apparently there are a couple of tricks to it including I think a warm engine and a good spray of crc or wd40 a few hours before trying. We had one member @Asterix who is an experienced technician and he had a couple that wouldn't come out. He ended up needing a new head. Not his, the one on the engine. :snigger:
Is there a part number and any recommendations?
Post by: Dazzler on March 21, 2018, 10:27:00
Something like these..
:link: 4x NGK NTK Diesel D Heater Glow Plugs For Kia / HYUNDAI Models No. 91843 5054716394019 | eBay (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F132503692266)
Post by: eye30 on March 21, 2018, 13:04:29
Many thanks for the answer. So it might be prudent to get a garage to do them in case I snap one.It might seem a silly question but are they easy to change? I don’t want to be shelling out over £120 here, to be smashed with fitting charge as well??
I’ve recently changed the battery and it still is sluggish to start. Tried the double glow plug warm technique and then it eventually starts.
Yes and no. Usually they come out easily enough but apparently there are a couple of tricks to it including I think a warm engine and a good spray of crc or wd40 a few hours before trying. We had one member @Asterix who is an experienced technician and he had a couple that wouldn't come out. He ended up needing a new head. Not his, the one on the engine. :snigger:
Is there a part number and any recommendations?
If happy to try why not have a go but if you find one is stuck give up before you cause damage
Post by: rnblade on March 21, 2018, 15:35:56
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Post by: eye30 on March 21, 2018, 17:38:02
, plus as I’m a bit shorter, difficult to reach over engine.
Stand on a stool to give hight and reach as i have to use a stool if i want to give the centre of my car roof a good polish otherwise i can just about give the centre part a bit of a flick
Post by: Asterix on March 21, 2018, 19:14:15
Having said that, it is fairly easy. First time I changed them, no problems, but I made 1 mistake; I lubricated the threads thinking they would be easier to remove next time. Wrong.!
As said, put some oil on a day before and make sure to remove the glow plugs when the engine is warm, at operating temperature.
Post by: golftoeye30 on March 21, 2018, 22:53:26
I'm thinking Glow plugs need changing, after reading these replies.. Would I be correct that the issue with my car is similar to the ones in this thread ?
Which brand work well ?? I use Beru in my Berlingo, they have lasted 100k miles and the van is in daily use.. Genuine are expensive, Bosch are cheap..
Post by: chris_i30gd on March 22, 2018, 12:38:12
Beru are double price. They may last more but not sure
Bosch and the all the other are much cheaper.
I think beru are more expensive because they heat up little faster but that is not a major +.
Post by: rnblade on March 22, 2018, 14:58:59
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Post by: Dazzler on March 22, 2018, 19:39:44
Post by: rnblade on March 23, 2018, 13:44:12
Decent price I thought, free next day delivery too, considering EuroCarParts want £30 for 1 !!
Going to try and fit them this weekend if the weather stays fair. Fingers crossed I don’t fcuk it up and end up calling for a mechanic
Post by: golftoeye30 on March 31, 2018, 00:43:47
Post by: edmagman on May 23, 2018, 05:56:14
The weather has got a bit colder down here in Tassie, and I noticed the i30 was cranking more than normal before it started, with a small cloud of white smoke on start up.
I suspected the Glow Plugs, (140.000 kms), I priced a set from Hyundai, ($440.00).
I took the car to my mechanic, (it was out of warranty in march). He confirmed the Glow Plugs were cactus and for the diagnosis, supply and fit new plugs the cost is $250.00.
Will let you know how it starts when I get the car back.
Post by: tw2005 on May 23, 2018, 08:03:34
Hi All,Was that $440 fitted?
The weather has got a bit colder down here in Tassie, and I noticed the i30 was cranking more than normal before it started, with a small cloud of white smoke on start up.
I suspected the Glow Plugs, (140.000 kms), I priced a set from Hyundai, ($440.00).
I took the car to my mechanic, (it was out of warranty in march). He confirmed the Glow Plugs were cactus and for the diagnosis, supply and fit new plugs the cost is $250.00.
Will let you know how it starts when I get the car back.
Post by: Dazzler on May 23, 2018, 08:34:30
Hi All,
The weather has got a bit colder down here in Tassie, and I noticed the i30 was cranking more than normal before it started, with a small cloud of white smoke on start up.
I suspected the Glow Plugs, (140.000 kms), I priced a set from Hyundai, ($440.00).
I took the car to my mechanic, (it was out of warranty in march). He confirmed the Glow Plugs were cactus and for the diagnosis, supply and fit new plugs the cost is $250.00.
Will let you know how it starts when I get the car back.
That's a lot better Eddie :victory: The $440 was just for the plugs if my memory serves me correctly?
Post by: edmagman on May 23, 2018, 11:49:44
Post by: tw2005 on May 23, 2018, 15:30:15
Nothing wrong with your memory Dazzler, yes that was the price of the plugs, $110.00 each, plus fitting.Gob Smacking, you can get a set OEM for under $100
:link: HYUNDAI I30 1.6L 2007-2011 GENUINE BRAND NEW GLOW PLUG 1 SET 4EA | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HYUNDAI-I30-1-6L-2007-2011-GENUINE-BRAND-NEW-GLOW-PLUG-1-SET-4EA/222457733773?epid=1082521495&hash=item33cb83a28d:g:00EAAOSws~pZ32jn)
Post by: chris_i30gd on May 23, 2018, 16:47:07
Post by: edmagman on May 24, 2018, 02:10:07
Just an update on the glow plugs.
Just picked up car, my mechanic said its starting as normal, all the plugs were unserviceable.
He did mention that the plugs not only help start the engine they remain on till you reach approx, 15 klms an hour then turn off, and come back on when idling etc, they call it a pre-warm condition which help with the emissions, interesting!!