2010 i30 Diesel Transmission Vibration

h20melon · **Reply #30: January 11, 2016, 01:11:32**

MetalDan: My experience with reporting an issue to the dealers is they want to try and fix it when you mention. When I had my problem a couple of years ago, and they were saying it is the clutch, I said that I will take the car and drive it until it gets worse - they then said that I would be responsible for damages as I didn't give them the chance to fix the problem (warranty or not).

Not sure how other people have been treated.

dereknunn · **Reply #31: January 11, 2016, 02:08:57**

Having recently had the clutch assembly replaced in my 2013 GD 1.6 CRDi due to loose springs in the clutch plate - see my thread entitled Transmission vibration (clutch issue) and coolant loss -

Transmission Vibration (Clutch issue) & Coolant Loss) - I can advise that the vibration was first reported at 60,000km but the clutch was not diagnosed as being faulty or replaced until 95,000km. During this time it did not slip, judder, hamper gear changes or exhibit any other symptoms of wear. Aside from the vibration it worked faultlessly.

As the replacement was not covered under warranty it may be worth considering living with the vibration, I certainly would be doing so knowing what I know now.

Regarding dual mass flywheels, from the pictures I was sent of my car with the transmission removed I was able to compare my flywheel with various pictures of recycled items available online (particularly ebay) and confirm my flywheel is not a dual mass item. This is inline with what the dealer told me.

Dazzler · **Reply #32: January 11, 2016, 02:42:47**

Derek is correct. We have discussed dual mass flywheels several times on here and I think every time we have concluded that the i30 doesn't have one.

Metaldan, I would report it to your closest Hyundai dealer but make it clear that if they suspect it is a non warranty issue you just want it noted for now and not acted upon.

constipated · **Reply #33: January 11, 2016, 03:26:10**

In my case, flywheel was replaced but did not rectify the situation. They told me to replace the clutch at the time at my cost which I declined. I think I will live with it.

This vibration must either be the clutch only or in some cases clutch and flywheel.

h20melon · **Reply #34: January 11, 2016, 03:49:29**

Agreed that the vibration is either clutch and/or flywheel. It's interesting that it is happening with a number of cars and after low kms. My car has done 50,000km since the first clutch replacement.

Well, in my case, I'm leaving it until it gets too bad or the noise from the bearing is more regular.

dereknunn · **Reply #35: January 11, 2016, 05:44:05**

The latest i30 specifications list maximum torque for the 1.6 CRDi engine as 260Nm with manual transmission and 300Nm with dual clutch transmission.

eye30 · **Reply #36: January 11, 2016, 07:59:50**

Quote from: MetalDan on January 10, 2016, 23:55:06

My car is still under warranty until April 2015,

Don't you nean 2016

tuchan · **Reply #37: January 18, 2016, 08:14:42**

Not a dual mass mate.

GDTourer · **Reply #38: January 22, 2016, 05:13:11**

Well this is all very interesting.

I've just had my MY13 i30 Tourer Diesel Manual at the dealership complaining of this issue.

Mine definitely has the DMF, and there is massive noise and vibration from the car which the dealer assumes is related to this or the clutch. Was first identified at 65,000 kms (now 90,000) and has gotten to the point where I can't put up with driving the car anymore like this.

But...they've told me they probably can't fix the problem after trying it with other cars and only getting marginal / short term improvements after replacing clutch & flywheel. I said I don't want to waste their time and mine replacing stuff if it's not going to fix the problem.

Seems like this is a very common problem after seeing all the posts on here about it.

I was quite honest with them - if it can't be fixed, then I will be off to my local Toyota dealership and not buying any Hyundai's ever again. They're taking my car for a day next week and looking into it further, but I'm not very hopeful.

Surely with this many confirmed cases, they should have produced a permanent fix and recalled the cars for repair.

I'm currently left thoroughly annoyed at this situation - it's utter bullshit.

Dazzler · **Reply #39: January 22, 2016, 05:28:16**

Wow! That is really interesting. I wouldn't say there were a lot of issues with this vibration considering the amount of Diesel owners on here. Just been a bit of a spate of them lately.

Maybe they've changed something (changed to a DMF?) because I am pretty sure they didn't have one originally in the diesel.

Really sorry to hear of your problems. I would be exactly the same in the circumstances.

Where is Tim (@cruiserfied ) when you need him!

Phil №❶ · **Reply #40: January 22, 2016, 06:03:57**

1. I am very surprised that the tourer has a DMF fitted.

2. I'm even more surprised that the dealership says they only get marginal results on repairing, that doesn't sound right to me. If a new DMF & clutch is fitted, how can it still vibrate. Sounds more like they don't want to do the job.

GDTourer · **Reply #41: January 22, 2016, 06:11:14**

They're going to put out a nation wide alert for this issue to see if anyone in Australia has found a fix - this is infinitely more preferable to arbitrarily changing clutches and flywheels in the seemingly vain hope that it will fix it.

I love this car and sincerely hope they can fix it, because if they can't I will be forced to upgrade which will cost me unnecessary amounts of money.

I'm a sales rep and have to put up with this noise & vibration up to 200 times a day...5 days a week...every week...you can understand my frustration!

Phil №❶ · **Reply #42: January 22, 2016, 06:13:28**

Yes, sorry you're having this problem, these cars are generally tops. Hope it can be sorted satisfactorily for you.

Doggie 1 · **Reply #43: January 22, 2016, 07:29:51**

Is the vibration a felt vibration or a heard vibration?
For a long time now, my car has had a heard vibration from @ 1800 rpm in third gear but I can't say that I can feel anything.
It is quite a loud vibration noise that disappears when the revs rise.
I have spoken to my mechanic once about it but he said he could fault it, but I haven't spent the time since to go with him and show him what I mean.
I imagined it was a loose exhaust bracket as that it what it sounds like to me, but apparently not.
My car is a diesel 6 speed manual.

cruiserfied · **Reply #44: January 22, 2016, 11:39:11**

Quote from: Dazzler on January 22, 2016, 05:28:16

Where is Tim (@cruiserfied ) when you need him!

Hell i've never had the complaint brought up let alone had to replace anything for it.

rustynutz · **Reply #45: January 23, 2016, 00:19:45**

Quote from: cruiserfied on January 22, 2016, 11:39:11

Quote from: Dazzler on January 22, 2016, 05:28:16
Where is Tim (@cruiserfied ) when you need him!

Hell i've never had the complaint brought up let alone had to replace anything for it.

So Tim, can you confirm if the Tourer does indeed have a DMF???

GDTourer · **Reply #46: January 23, 2016, 02:54:07**

Doggie 1 - it's both felt and heard, between 1500 - 2000 RPM in third and fourth gear, under load. In 1st and 2nd it passes through this rev range too quickly for the noise to be apparent, and in 5th and 6th it is drowned out by road noise and wind noise, but presumably still there.

Can be felt through the entire car and the noise is significant - enough to make pedestrians turn their heads and enough that I'm totally sick of it.

Will keep you guys posted once it's been looked at further on Wednesday - hopefully I'll have some answers. I have a 5000km road trip holiday coming up in Feb through the Snowys and VIC high country, and there is no way I'm taking the car while it makes this noise / vibration.

cruiserfied · **Reply #47: January 23, 2016, 11:55:51**

Quote from: rustynutz on January 23, 2016, 00:19:45

Quote from: cruiserfied on January 22, 2016, 11:39:11
Quote from: Dazzler on January 22, 2016, 05:28:16
Where is Tim (@cruiserfied ) when you need him!

Hell i've never had the complaint brought up let alone had to replace anything for it.

So Tim, can you confirm if the Tourer does indeed have a DMF???

Not really. I've not seen a DMF come out of an I30, though i've only pulled a few manuals out. And the few times ive looked it up after comments here ive never found conclusive evidence either way. Manual and parts catalouge are both very vauge with pictures and descriptions.

I would say its unlikely they would use DMF on Czech cars and not Korean but stranger things have happened.

rustynutz · **Reply #48: January 25, 2016, 00:49:55**

Thanks Tim...

I've searched high & low and still can't find anything confirming that there is anything other than a single mass flywheel in the 1.6l crdi Hyundai i30...

GDTourer · **Reply #49: January 25, 2016, 05:34:29**

Hmmm...the plot thickens...interesting!!

Well the dealer has told me mine definitely has a DMF (and that they've replaced them under warranty), I guess we'll find out for sure on Wednesday! Perhaps I should get them to show me a photo, or alternatively show me the old flywheel if they end up replacing it.

If it doesn't have one, I'm at a loss (and so is my dealer evidently) as to what could be causing this noise / vibration.

Watch this space...

GDTourer · **Reply #50: January 29, 2016, 06:55:51**

Hi guys,

Well I've collected my car after two days in the workshop - it took longer because they had to attend to another warranty claim regarding front end clunks (suspect failed front left wheel bearing, although I suspect there is more to it than that).

It's going back on Thursday (once parts arrive) for a new flywheel which is being replaced under warranty.

Interestingly, the head mechanic has told me that it probably won't fix the problem but at this stage it's the only option they have.

Also, he had told me unequivocally that all diesel manual GD cars (Koren hatches and Czech wagons) have the Dual Mass Flywheel fitted.

I'll check in again once the flywheel has been fitted and let you know what sort of difference it makes.

What do you guys think about the clutch - should I also be fitting a new one at the same time (92,000kms), or will this be replaced with the new flywheel anyway?

Cheers,
Tom

Dazzler · **Reply #51: January 29, 2016, 08:41:10**

Clutches should last almost the life of the car! But so should the flywheel!

tuchan · **Reply #52: January 29, 2016, 22:35:16**

Maybe they have gone over to a dual mass on the GD as apposed to the solid for the earlier cars? I know my FD CRDI has a solid in it, got the old one sitting in a box in the shed with loose springs on the plate.

I would be looking into a DM to solid conversion. DM are a very expensive clutch.

Dazzler · **Reply #53: January 29, 2016, 23:10:51**

Quote from: tuchan on January 29, 2016, 22:35:16

Maybe they have gone over to a dual mass on the GD as apposed to the solid for the earlier cars? I know my FD CRDI has a solid in it, got the old one sitting in a box in the shed with loose springs on the plate.

I would be looking into a DM to solid conversion. DM are a very expensive clutch.

Dual mass refers to the Flywheel, not the clutch.

tuchan · **Reply #54: January 29, 2016, 23:20:48**

soz, clutch kit as a whole assembly

Dazzler · **Reply #55: January 30, 2016, 01:41:19**

Fairy nuff as Dave would say...

ttc · **Reply #56: January 30, 2016, 12:06:17**

My i30 had a clunk in the front too, the cv joint was loose

Hope they fix it, maybe I should call the mechanics who did my clutch and ask what type of flywheel it has.

Dazzler · **Reply #57: January 31, 2016, 00:02:38**

Quote from: ttc on January 30, 2016, 12:06:17

My i30 had a clunk in the front too, the cv joint was loose

Hope they fix it, maybe I should call the mechanics who did my clutch and ask what type of flywheel it has.

Please do..

ttc · **Reply #58: February 01, 2016, 10:58:34**

I did and he told me something very Interesting, but I'm just a stupid motorcycle rider.

rustynutz · **Reply #59: February 01, 2016, 11:49:06**

Please don't keep us in suspenders, ttc!