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Re: Running winter tyres in the UK? Which ones are recommended?
« Reply #30 : October 01, 2016, 05:21:11 »
Rig up a fake camera post complete with signage. The council may even do that on request! :lol:
Good idea Gonz...
They did just that here (UK) and were forced to remove it - otherwise Legal Action would be taken....

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« Reply #31 : October 01, 2016, 05:41:04 »
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Re: Running winter tyres in the UK? Which ones are recommended?
« Reply #32 : October 01, 2016, 06:58:57 »

Yup because, logically :rolleyes:, H is between U (which comes after T) and V!  :crazy2:    I also notice that 'O' and 'X' are missing from the letters used which otherwise (excepting H) are from J-Z - mostly in order.   T=190; U=200; H=210; V=240;  (All speeds in kmh)

As for why it is like that I am assuming something like originally there wasn't an H and the speed steps went 190, 200, 240 (T, U, V) then there was a need (for whatever reason) for a 210.
Maybe in the US or Europe, but when I joined the tyre industry in 1975 in Australia, we only had "S", "H" and "V".

Okay then...  interesting.   I am just an outsider looking in taking a guess.   Did you ever learn why they are like that? or is it just a mystery of life?  :D
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« Reply #33 : October 01, 2016, 07:07:14 »

Yup because, logically :rolleyes:, H is between U (which comes after T) and V!  :crazy2:    I also notice that 'O' and 'X' are missing from the letters used which otherwise (excepting H) are from J-Z - mostly in order.   T=190; U=200; H=210; V=240;  (All speeds in kmh)

As for why it is like that I am assuming something like originally there wasn't an H and the speed steps went 190, 200, 240 (T, U, V) then there was a need (for whatever reason) for a 210.
Maybe in the US or Europe, but when I joined the tyre industry in 1975 in Australia, we only had "S", "H" and "V".

Okay then...  interesting.   I am just an outsider looking in taking a guess.   Did you ever learn why they are like that? or is it just a mystery of life?  :D
Actually,  I did. But it was years ago and I've forgotten.   :crazy1:
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« Reply #34 : October 01, 2016, 07:08:52 »
However,  I suspect it was as you say in Europe and we just picked the eyes out of it, not needing all the extras at that time.
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« Reply #35 : October 01, 2016, 07:09:34 »
Nitrogen, bit of a waste IMO.

nitrogen is 78% of air  :exclaim:
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« Reply #36 : October 01, 2016, 07:10:29 »
Nitrogen, bit of a waste IMO.

nitrogen is 78% of air  :exclaim:
Absolutely correct,  Phil.
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« Reply #37 : October 01, 2016, 08:23:08 »
Nitrogen, bit of a waste IMO.
nitrogen is 78% of air  :exclaim:
Absolutely correct,  Phil.
Not quite the same Nitrogen....
They use pure white nitrogen from a Quality Assured pre-charged cylinders provider (B.O.C. Limited).
Problem with "normal" air supplied from a Compressor is that, apart from inclusion of all manner of possible gases and particles, it also includes oil from the Compressor, water etc.
No extra charge for the white N2, tyres should run cooler, reduces internal degradation of the rubber in tyres due to oxidisation
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« Reply #38 : October 01, 2016, 19:28:41 »
You're running winter tyres in cold conditions, why would you be trying to minimise heating of the tyre. Almost every car in Oz just uses air in tyres, I've never heard of any contaminants including oil hurting a tyre. If oil is present in any quantity, get air somewhere else.

Nitrogen was a fad here a few years ago.
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« Reply #39 : October 01, 2016, 20:57:27 »
Jax and Bob Jane still offer it, but I worked with the guy who introduced it to BJ. He was their "marketing manager".
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« Reply #40 : October 01, 2016, 21:01:10 »
Oil and water can damage a tyre in the long term but it's rare for a tyre to last longenough for it to be an issue. In any case, a pproperly maintained air compressor will have a trap for contaminants.
And low pressure is a bigger worry than anything else.
People with nitrogen in their tyres tend to forget to ever check their pressures.
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Re: Running winter tyres in the UK? Which ones are recommended?
« Reply #41 : January 06, 2017, 19:04:39 »
I've created a table with a selection of winter tyres ranked from best to worst based on the EU Tyre Label scores.
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The rankings for the different tyres are then the weighted scores multiplied together.

Using the ranking methodology described above the Top5 are:
1) Michelin Cross Climate
2) Nokian *WR D4
3) Dunlop Winter Sport 5
4) Continental *Winter Contact 
5) GoodYear *UltraGrip 9

(I tried including a HTML table created from excel but the forum didn't like it)

I eventually purchased the Dunlop Winter Sport 5 tyres.

I have found them much quieter than the original summer Hankooks.

They seem to be grip-y enough in the wet & the moderate cold we're currently having. 
Although, it hasn't yet been cold and icy enough to  really test (although, I don't think I really want to test them that far).
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