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Squeaking from steering wheel
« August 14, 2018, 07:47:39 »
Hi all, I have been posting about having bought a Ďnewí second generation (facelift) i30 (2016 model) . This was stored by Hyundai for a couple of years before selling with a few miles on a the clock.

I have noticed that it is making an annoying squeaking from the steering wheel mainly after driving for at least 1/2 hour. I think itís higher up near the wheel as it squeaks when moving it up and down (ie without turning and engaging the lower part of the column) but itís hard to tell. Of course it is intermittent, so in all likelihood it wouldnít be noticeable if I took it back to the dealership, which in any case is some distance away.

I have posted a couple of YouTube clips:
:link: Steering wheel squeaking - YouTube
:link: Steering wheel squeak - YouTube

Is it something anyone has had experience of and knows of an easy fix? I canít see anything obvious and canít seem to dampen/ Ďfeelí where the sound may be coming from. Thanks for any comments.



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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #1 : August 14, 2018, 18:17:48 »
That is an odd one. Can't really hear much but a rattle when you are moving the wheel up and down. Could obviously pick it up in the other video.

I wonder what @tw2005 and @nzenigma feel about squirting just a little WD40 or RP7 in behind the wheel?

It does fix a lot of stuff and Duct Tape (the other fix all) wouldn't be much use in this situation...  :undecided:
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #2 : August 14, 2018, 18:38:33 »
The first video has a scraping noise. A bit of WD40 wont hurt, and applied judiciously it may identify the source of the noise.
Two things come mind. The indicator switch has a nylon 'return to centre' cam behind the wheel.
Other thing is to look at the plastic covers behind the wheel, if they are poorly fitted or distorted they could be rubbing on the back of the steering wheel.
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #3 : August 15, 2018, 01:52:55 »
Thanks for your suggestions. I couldn't find any obvious areas/materials rubbing directly behind the wheel- but will investigate again. I have got the feeling that it is actually within the steering wheel mechanism/column. Its weird in that on some journeys it is not apparent at all and does not appear until I have driven for some time,  indicating something related to expansion? I am hoping it may fade over time..otherwise its either a trip to the dealer or louder music on the radio!

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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #4 : August 15, 2018, 03:34:41 »
Well, everyone's got an opinion. Here's mine.

report it and have the dealer check it out.

I don't understand the issue with the vertical, if it's unlatched for adjustment then there will be some noise simply because it's metal on metal contact and a smear of grease.

Most people would find their preferred position, set and forget.

The other noise sounds more like it's internal of the Electric Power Steering, and I'm thinking in the electric motor, coupler bushing to steering column area.

Notice how the frequency of the sound and duration is not linear with the wheel movement. It's as if the wheel is moved then detected, then the EPS starts to drive the steering shaft and that's when the squeal is heard.

That's my contributing guess but i would leave this with the warranty if it's an issue as any attempt to self rectify may complicate it further if it is a fault they need to address.
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #5 : August 15, 2018, 07:01:36 »
Thanks tw2005 and all for you views.
 
A couple of things in response.
 
I think that in reality,  the sound is in line with the steering wheel movement- it may be that the YouTube audio and video donít quite sync.
 
I donít think that it is related to the EPS as I can hear it when moving the wheel when  the ignition is off. Itís also apparent at whatever rake/angle the steering wheel is set.
 
I take your point about not attempting to self-rectify when under warranty but was hoping that it may have been a question of something that I may be able to lubricate simply or with the excellent knowledge on this forum, could explain to the dealer. Of course on the last 2 journeys (1 hour each) the sound has not been apparent.  Itís going to be a difficult one in terms of taking it back to the dealer as they may not be able to replicate the sound.
 

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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #6 : August 15, 2018, 07:12:46 »
Thanks tw2005 and all for you views.
 
A couple of things in response.
 
I think that in reality,  the sound is in line with the steering wheel movement- it may be that the YouTube audio and video donít quite sync.
 
I donít think that it is related to the EPS as I can hear it when moving the wheel when  the ignition is off. Itís also apparent at whatever rake/angle the steering wheel is set.
 
I take your point about not attempting to self-rectify when under warranty but was hoping that it may have been a question of something that I may be able to lubricate simply or with the excellent knowledge on this forum, could explain to the dealer. Of course on the last 2 journeys (1 hour each) the sound has not been apparent.  Itís going to be a difficult one in terms of taking it back to the dealer as they may not be able to replicate the sound.
In that case I don't know, but worth monitoring and reporting at next service. I've  had a squeal like that in one of my FDs but only when on , and it's not all the time but just on initial movement,  :winker:
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #7 : August 15, 2018, 07:27:12 »
@Npmr Remember you have 5 years warranty so just turn up the stereo a bit and relax for now!  :goodjob:
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #8 : August 15, 2018, 07:57:18 »
I still think it could simply be the motor  moving when you load that column up. Even when off the coupling rotates when you turn the wheel.  :idea:
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #9 : August 15, 2018, 17:34:31 »
                        Well, everyone's got an opinion. Here's mine.

                                                 :welly1:

             report it and have the dealer check it out.
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I don't understand the issue with the vertical,  :happyjumper:  the sound and duration is not linear  :clapthanks: the wheel is moved then detected   :honk:

That's my contributing guess

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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #10 : August 15, 2018, 18:12:04 »
I found this exact same noise posted on YouTube related to a Kia ceed


:link: Kia ceed steering wheel creaking noise - YouTube
 
Not sure whether there was any resolution!

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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #11 : August 15, 2018, 18:26:56 »
After having some fun with my mate Gerard, Im going to advise you to go to the dealer.... :rolleyes: as he said! :Pout:

Originally, I heard some noise that's like plastic binding. But also a metal on metal tapping, that's what your Kia vid is producing.

If the wheel to driver position lever and clamp is holding tight, ( check that it cannot move at all ) then the next area is coupling to the power steer motor.

We know from experience that a knock from that coupling can be hard to track down if you aren't aware of it.
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #12 : August 15, 2018, 22:53:00 »
After having some fun with my mate Gerard, Im going to advise you to go to the dealer.... :rolleyes: as he said! :Pout:

Originally, I heard some noise that's like plastic binding. But also a metal on metal tapping, that's what your Kia vid is producing.

If the wheel to driver position lever and clamp is holding tight, ( check that it cannot move at all ) then the next area is coupling to the power steer motor.

We know from experience that a knock from that coupling can be hard to track down if you aren't aware of it.
shouldn't you be having a pickle of a time  :wacko:
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Re: Squeaking from steering wheel
« Reply #13 : August 16, 2018, 02:01:41 »
Did, sort of.... took the Z3 for a blat up Mnt. Mee to see some pickled friends.
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