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How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« June 26, 2020, 12:36:10 »
hi, i have in my i30 PD a 5 inch touchscreen radio with rear view camera. I got 2 radios 8 inches, the first has NAVI, the second without. during replacement it turned out that the rear view camera and USB did not work. I was browsing the forum threads and I saw that it is enough to pull out 4 wires from a large plug and connect to a separate socket, fortunately I have cut cables in big screens.
How to solve the rear camera problem - is it enough to change the position of the wires in the plug?
Anyone have a pin scheme from a smaller radio?
There would be someone who step by step would show or describe how to change these radios?









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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #1 : July 11, 2020, 05:09:56 »
Hii, I also did the same and swapped my head unit to a larger one (bud i didn't had a camera), its very hard to find some pinout scheme. I had to Buy access to the Hyundai GSW site to find some. What i did you can find here below.

When replacing you need to change some cables in the block connector:
-Vehicle speed from B18 to A38
-USB Port from block A3, A4, A5 and A6 to the separate USB connector.

From the 8" scheme below i think you have to find the cable for the video power and put it in the A6 pin (where one of the USB cable was)
Maybe u can compare what cables you have to much for the 5" scheme below?

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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #2 : July 15, 2020, 15:20:02 »
Do you still have access to this webpage?
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #3 : July 23, 2020, 13:39:59 »
So I am looking to upgrade from my basic 5" head unit to the bigger 8" I think it is?
I have spoken to some car technicians where I service the car and they give very vague answers.

Will I be able to use any OEM 8" satnav head unit I find in my car, even if the head unit is from the UK for example while I own a car in Sweden?
I understand some cabling might be different but I found some wire schemes so I might be able to figure that out.

Does the 8" satnav unit have Android auto capabilities? To be honest, I don't care about built in satnav as I prefer to use Waze through my phone, hence why android auto is much more important.

EDIT:

Is the satnav built-in in the unit or is it a secondary device that needs to be plugged in?
I believe of course that its built-in, but my father.... "who knows, just ask, there are no stupid questions".
So who is right here lol?
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #4 : August 05, 2020, 11:02:30 »
Hello I would suggest you to have a look at scheme.

This is a 5" radio (infotainment)































And this one here is 8" radio (infotainment)































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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #5 : August 05, 2020, 11:04:14 »
I would say that the 8" without navigation has the same scheme so you can follow this one.

I would suggest you to create a plug and play cable system so that you are able to mount the old one in case the new one gets broken.

This should be it

:link: 1Pc Car Stereo Radio 13pin+61pin Male/Female Plug Wire Harness Adapter For KIA K2/K3/K4/Elantra/Mistra/Tucson Wiring Connector|Cables, Adapters & Sockets| -,scm-url:1007.13339.146401.0,pvid:34a1df0a-724f-443b-b9ca-7cf5a523c6ea,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%230_668%23808%235965%23597_668%23888%233325%2314_668%232846%238116%23964_668%232717%237566%23812_668%231000022185%231000066055%230_668%233468%2315616%23755
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #6 : August 05, 2020, 11:05:47 »
Hello I would suggest you to have a look at scheme.

This is a 5" radio (infotainment)































And this one here is 8" radio (infotainment) with navigation but the scheme is the same for the one without a navi having Apple/Android car smart features






























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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #7 : August 05, 2020, 11:07:44 »
I would suggest you to create a plug and play cable system so that you are able to mount the old one in case the new one gets broken.

This should be it

:link: 1Pc Car Stereo Radio 13pin+61pin Male/Female Plug Wire Harness Adapter For KIA K2/K3/K4/Elantra/Mistra/Tucson Wiring Connector|Cables, Adapters & Sockets| -,scm-url:1007.13339.146401.0,pvid:34a1df0a-724f-443b-b9ca-7cf5a523c6ea,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%230_668%23808%235965%23597_668%23888%233325%2314_668%232846%238116%23964_668%232717%237566%23812_668%231000022185%231000066055%230_668%233468%2315616%23755

:link: FEELDO 35Pin+38Pin Full Pin Pluging Car Stereo Wire Harness Adapter Connector Plug Into Radio For Hyundai Elantra/Mistra/Tucson|Cables, Adapters & Sockets|,scm-url:1007.14976.178076.0,pvid:76fc0c03-221b-43b0-9955-b97d21978200,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%230_668%23808%234093%23717_668%23888%233325%2316_4976%230%23178076%230_4976%232711%237538%23342_4976%233223%2310847%232_4976%233104%239653%239_4976%233141%239887%231_668%232846%238116%23919_668%232717%237567%23997_668%231000022185%231000066055%230_668%233422%2315392%23192

:link: FEELDO 1PC Car Stereo 35+38Pin Male Plug Wire Harness Adapter For KIA K2/K3/K4/Elantra/Mistra/Tucson CD Radio Connector|Cables, Adapters & Sockets| -,scm-url:1007.13339.146401.0,pvid:d434a44b-d364-48a7-9ddb-cb9628be79e9,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%230_668%23808%234093%23717_668%23888%233325%2316_668%232846%238116%23919_668%232717%237567%23997_668%231000022185%231000066055%230_668%233468%2315614%23543
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #8 : August 06, 2020, 05:51:47 »
Thanks for all that @Majcip  :victory:

I'll sticky this topic for future reference.  :happydance:
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« Reply #9 : August 08, 2020, 17:03:50 »
Thanks for all that @Majcip  :victory:

I'll sticky this topic for future reference.  :happydance:

Hi thanks, Im looking for USB connector that is for this this 8" radio. Anyone have an info where to find them or how to create one?
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #10 : August 16, 2020, 13:23:33 »
Hi, I still have a problem with replacing this radio, I connected the wires from the usb plug to the wires from the plug according to the diagram and the usb still does not work.

I will try to describe my work step by step.

after dismantling the radio, I replaced the "vechicle speed" pin  from plug B18 to A38. Then I cut the USB cables from the plug and connected them to a separate, cut plug that I got with the radio:

pin3 - GROUND (black / orange) + red
pin4 - DATA HIGH (White) + green
pin5 - Data LOW (yellow) + White
pin6 - VCC (black) + black

below adds photos. I still have a question, what is the matter with setting the clock in 8 "radio, after connecting it was impossible to enter the time settings, the icon was dimmed. I guess it's about the time with GPS, but how to turn it off










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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #11 : August 18, 2020, 13:03:58 »
Hi Ester. You must have connected somehow USB wrongly. For the time you need to have GPS antenna

Here is link for the USB connector if anybody needed one
:link: Car Media Head Unit USB Interface Cable Adapter For KIA HYUNDAI ELANTRA MISTRA TUCSON|Cables, Adapters & Sockets| - AliExpress

For the time settings you need a GPS Antenna with Fakra connector this should do.
:link: 1pc FAKRA RNS E For BMW Audi Mercedes NTG Comand APS Vauxhall Opel GPS Antenna|GPS Receiver & Antenna| - AliExpress,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Somebody on Czech forum posted this for USB
:link: 961201R000 961201R300 ASSY AUX & USB For Hyundai 2011 2012 2013 Elantra USB Reader iPod AUX Port Adapter Assy 96120 1R000|Car Switches & Relays| -,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603

For anyone that is looking for plug and play solution without cutting original cables here is adapter that you need to cut and connect the pins
:link: HF-59690 4CARMEDIA, Cable for THB - 4carmedia.com
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #12 : August 18, 2020, 19:01:20 »
ok, and how to exchang USB port, i can't made USB in other place than OEM, its not for me. Everythink should be look like original

please, step by step explain how to do it :(
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« Reply #13 : August 21, 2020, 14:44:41 »
Im still waiting for usb cable and gps to arrive. Once I will have it I will try to do the step by step tutorial.
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« Reply #14 : September 04, 2020, 11:17:17 »
ok, and how to exchang USB port, i can't made USB in other place than OEM, its not for me. Everythink should be look like original

please, step by step explain how to do it :(

Im also having this issue. However my rear view camera is still not working as it should. Is your camera working when you shift to R? If so, what pins did you switch?
In case of your USB. Does your USB charge at least? Mine did the charging but it was not transfering data through. So the issue must be in 2 pins. I guess D+ and D- might be wrong.
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #15 : September 05, 2020, 07:36:57 »
You have to separated usb to other plug, im still working on this... Check the pin scheme and try to remove and connect pins to right places
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« Reply #16 : September 11, 2020, 15:11:06 »
And can you confirm with a picture that your reserve camera is working and you managed to also to successfuly connect phone and have Android or Apple CarPlay avialable?

I seem to be failing at this. I cannot get camera to work nor phone through USB.
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« Reply #17 : September 13, 2020, 03:30:11 »
Im still waiting for full solution, i have similar problem just like You.
5” with camera to 8” without navi ?
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« Reply #18 : September 13, 2020, 06:23:38 »
When I tried the USB cable that I posted earlier here the radio did actually connected with phone and I was able to use Apple CarPlay or Android Car feature. When I connected the wires so that the actual USB/AUX ports will be working it did not work as it should.

At first try it noticed me of connecting to phone but then it popped a messaged it failed to connect. And after that it never even showed the message. However, the phone was charging but not connecting and I tried everything I know I could. Another thing is that when I plugged USB Flash drive the radio was able to play music from it and also to write files on it.

Reverse camera is not working. I got into engineering menu and found camera detection there but I could not change it. I downloaded logs so that I could somehow figure it out.

To get to engineering menu you need to got System info and there tap 4x time left of Update button and 2x on the right side of button. At least with version of what I have in my radio.

Software version: PDE.EUR.SOP.V095.180424.DUA_A
Firmware version: PD.EUR.282.180402.MICOM.DL

Here is a link for new AUX/USB
:link: 961201R000 961201R300 ASSY AUX & USB For Hyundai 2011 2012 2013 Elantra USB Reader iPod AUX Port Adapter Assy 96120 1R000|Car Switches & Relays| -,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603

Maybe the car itself needs to have some sort of update IDK. When I asked Hyundai about it they are not providing any info regarding this. I find it pretty sad that they are not offering after purchase upgrades. It is another business for them.

It would be beneficial to meet somebody who has this radio in the car from the build and find out what versions of software/firmware they have.

I am posting images that I took while I had it mounted.








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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #19 : November 15, 2020, 09:11:21 »
Majcip could you re upload pictures from that post? can not open normal size, only miniature

Hello I would suggest you to have a look at scheme.

This is a 5" radio (infotainment)


And this one here is 8" radio (infotainment) with navigation but the scheme is the same for the one without a navi having Apple/Android car smart features


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« Reply #20 : November 15, 2020, 16:52:10 »
Majcip could you re upload pictures from that post? can not open normal size, only miniature

Hello I would suggest you to have a look at scheme.

This is a 5" radio (infotainment)


And this one here is 8" radio (infotainment) with navigation but the scheme is the same for the one without a navi having Apple/Android car smart features


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Hi, the thumbs images are linked to their full resolution but Im accessing it from the desktop.

I havent figured it out yet fully how to make it work but I am getting there and found the problem.

Here are 5 things you need to make to make it work
USB/AUX
Time-Date
Reverse camera
Vehicle speed
IGPM pin (Fuse 1)

USB
For USB to make it work you need to change the USB/AUX port for the original one that is part number 96120-g2050.
Example link for 96120-G2050

Or you can make one by swapping what you have for this one.
Link to AliExpress unit

Then you would need to buy the cable with both ends to be the same. One you would connect to 8 inch AVN unit and the other to the new USB/AUX unit.
Cable for USB to AVN

However, I must say that I dont plan to use AUX so that would not be connected as the connector is different and I do not know who to make an adapter for it or what kind of connector that is.

For TIME to work
You just simply need to buy any GPS module with Fakra connector. Then inside the card find a place where you would put it and it would hold it. Usually the module has a magnet.


Reverse Camera
For camera you would need to connect following cabels

Connector A on 5" Audio to connector A on 8" AVN

[A] Pin 20 to Pin 6 [A]
[A] Pin 32 to Pin 20 [A]

For vehicle speed

Connector B on 5" Audio to connector A on 8" AVN

Pin 18 to Pin 38 [A]

For IGPM pin (Fuse 1)

Connector B on 5" Audio to connector B on 8" AVN

Pin 32 to Pin 33

If you want to get to Engineering Mode to the following
Go to Settings and then to System Info and there then tap 5x on the left and 3 times on the right

:link: AVN 8" without NAVI, Engineering mode i30 PDe - YouTube

Here is a video from Engineering mode where I found out that R gear is not detected as everything else is.

:link: 5” Audio to 8” AVN - Hyundai i30 PDe not detecting R gear - YouTube

The reason why USB/AUX that is with the 5" radio is not working is due to its limitation. You can do the cable according to scheme but the data is not transfered to the AVN unit so the mirroring the phone is not possible and must be done dirrectly through the cable as shown in the scheme. The camera is detected automatically by 8" AVN unit whereas in 5" there was need to have a connection on cable A on pin 36. Also turning camera on was done when put to R position as 5" Audio would get information through Backup Lamps lighting on cable B on pin 25.

This is all that I know.

PS: I need to do the pin on B cable 32 to 33. I havent done them and maybe this is the last reason why my AVN is not functioning when gear is in R position. Good luck
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Re: How to change headunit in i30 PD 5" to 8" OEM
« Reply #21 : November 15, 2020, 16:54:24 »
Connector A
5" Audio has cable M09-A
8" AVN has cable M15-A


Connector B
5" Audio has cable M09-B
8" AVN has cable M15-B
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« Reply #22 : November 15, 2020, 17:48:31 »
it did not load before but it is fine now.
Thanks you are doing great job, cant wait to read you success
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« Reply #23 : November 16, 2020, 12:29:47 »
it did not load before but it is fine now.
Thanks you are doing great job, cant wait to read you success

Hello, I can confirm that doing pin from 32 to 33 worked and everything works as expected now. Even partially the USB port that goes for 5" Audio radio. What is happening is that it sometimes disconnects, or not connect or not read the phone correctly. So it is best to get the USB module for direct cable.

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